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Great oppertunity if you are a hacker...
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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a1denvalu3 1 year ago
If this ever happens we'd see a hard fork attempt to try and recover the funds which will most likely result in another bitcoin cash situation where they lose value immediately against the real BTC.
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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Hear me out ... If Coinbase gets hacked Bitcoins moons. Why? Because millions of coins will be considered non spendable. Sure it might take a dip in the short term but after the market settles down hodlers who keep utxo within their self custody will be rewarded. The same thing happened with Gox and Finex. The real play will be to short coinbase.
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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Unless there is a coordinated plan with Coinbase, itโ€™s impossible to hack Cold storage where they allegedly keep their coins offline. Any hot wallets youโ€™d hope they keep to an operational minimum ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
The important part is how it is kept in cold storage, no? I mean funds doesn't necessarily get lost or stolen because Coinbase gets hacked? I mean, maybe if a Oceans eleven kind of style heist happens but man, I'd love to see that movie so it'd be ok.
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Elwin Ransom 1 year ago
Onramp and multi-institutional multisig makes more sense by the day
The more centralized it gets, the better the loot. The better the loot, the more incentives are increase for a hack, rugpull or executive order.
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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it'll be practically impossible to do anything with such high profile coins stolen
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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That'll induce a hard fork and the ETF's already have in their documents that THEY will decide which fork is the bitcoin they will use. There is a timeless war against TRUTH, things will get much worse before they can get better.
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Mnm 1 year ago
People is defending Coinbase because they use very robust cold storage, with three different wallets held by different groups of people etc. But a hack is not the only source of havoc. Unpaid debt from fractional reserve or state attack could happen. Giving your coins to Coinbase does not align with the principles of decentralization.
I really respect and appreciate what Saylor has done for the space. But it is INSANE to me that he just has all his BTC custodially on Coinbase. Itโ€™s a matter of time before they get hacked. Itโ€™s too big of a honeypot and too many state actors are already actively trying to infiltrate the company.
A hack isn't even the biggest concern; a 6102 attack is so easily executed through an asset seizure on Coinbase, which would be trivial for the government to do. Not your keys, NOT your coins.
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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Jose Sammut 1 year ago
That calms me down a little, but blimey, still huge.
As the price goes up at some point having individual citizens holding spot bitcoin will become a national security issue and the FEDS will notify every KYC exchange to turn over their bitcoin in exchange for fiat Some exchanges will fold MOST will Coinbase 100% will Some exchanges will say fuck you to the feds
More likely a 6102-like government grab, as theyโ€™ve shown us theyโ€™re happy to do already with gold. The US Gov (or the Network behind them) donโ€™t need to hack anything, they can just force through a confiscation and no US company is going to stop them if they want to do it
This thread is kind of silly. First Coinbase does have its own bitcoin wallet addresses. Second, if you have your bitcoin in a wallet with your own set of keys that are not on the Internet / one bitcoin equals one bitcoin. The price will probably go down and then quickly rebound. It doesnโ€™t matter cause youโ€™re not gonna lose your bitcoin.
Yes, I would assume so and Iโ€™m pretty sure Saylor has said multi-institutions and multisig but Iโ€™m not on Twitter so canโ€™t verify. Whatever people think of his motivations heโ€™s a smart enough guy so Iโ€™m sure heโ€™s ๐Ÿ’ฏ aware. Itโ€™s the retail plebs Iโ€™m more concerned about of course, theyโ€™d be the first to lose it
It would suck but at this point I don't know if I would feel as bad as with previous hacks/thefts. There were enough precedents and warnings and this is litteraly the first thing that everyone in the space learns when they decide to do their due diligence.
True, and taking personal responsibility is the way out of most problems. Most people unfortunately donโ€™t want to. Of all the people I have personally orange pilled, only a handful have actually swallowed and self-custodied, normies just canโ€™t see the threat. And it will still be my fault/bitcoinโ€™s ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ญ
I know! Even the ones that have โ€˜got itโ€™, most ask me to help them transfer etc. Theyโ€™re always trying to give me their keys!!!
Hahaha yeah, like is that supposed to be a compliment you dumb fuck, to keep me responsible when you eventually lose it because you have your seed on your forehead ๐Ÿคฃ
Donโ€™t know. Iโ€™ve read conflicting reports. From all the interviews Iโ€™ve seen Saylor has not specified exactly where it is. So I think itโ€™s possible it may not be all Coinbase. Hard to sayโ€ฆ
Coinbase kontrolliert mehr als doppelt so viele Bitcoin, als MtGox zu seinen besten Zeiten ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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oh, interesting. i'm daunted just personally figuring out multi sig custody, so figuring this out for a company must be crazy stressful.
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MineBTC 1 year ago
MSTR? They hodl over 200,000 btc, they don't show up here.
Yes please. Paper bitcoins aren't bitcoins... Let's purge the weak.
Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ's avatar Bitcoin Wizard ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
When Coinbase ever gets hacked, this industry is going into an economic depression of its own: - All the BTC held in the ETFs gone - All of $MSTR BTC gone - BTC held by Public companies gone - BTC held by US Mining companies gone ๐Ÿฟ image
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