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jack 9 months ago
anyone live in switzerland and can speak to it’s government?

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Pädu 9 months ago
I am Connected to a handful of Representatives
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jack 9 months ago
i mean comment on it’s government. it’s interesting. pretty minimal and decentralized.
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Buckleys 9 months ago
I lived as a student a couple of years back. European version of Singapore. You obey the rules. No exceptions. No grey area. Everything is very black and white, but the laws are reasonable. However, I believe it's been slowly declining the further away we get from their gold standard era. I didn't know it at the time but realized later as I discovered Bitcoin. The reason their society thrived and allowed itself to remain neutral all these years was because of the gold standard. My hypothesis is that the gold standard period of Switzerland allowed for thriving of education, self development at a reasonable pace. People may not see the link, but it's one of the only other countries I know of where guns are legal. The difference is this law comes with the flip sides of mandatory military service and excellent education that empower people to be civilized and avoid mutual destruction. Discipline was everywhere. From the punctuality of trains to the cleanliness of streets. I think this was enabled by their gold standard. And as I mentioned earlier, I think we're now beginning to see the cracks of Switzerland moving away from that model in 1973, when they moved away from gold backed currency exchange rates to floating exchange rates.
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asknostr 9 months ago
Feels like the culture is one that drives SELF governance but the culture of the individuals is to be very conservative and considered because it’s worked for them
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Pädu 9 months ago
The structure is fractal. At state level, the government consists of 7 people. At the level of the cantons, which are quasi-republics themselves, the government consists of 7 people. And in the individual municipality, a town or even a village, the local government consists of 7 people. Fractal, so to speak.
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lesco 9 months ago
the only nation to ever vote to get out of the gold standard behind their direct democracy theater, it’s as socialist as it gets they omega brainwash their population into modern green communism check out Zermart like cities that go after car ownership and private businesses but their national marketing is S tier, they learned to avoid banning things outright, instead create a complex enough funnel to drive society where they want
I’m confused you need gov contacts or you’re talking about posting more about how it compares in terms of governance ?
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the8thHouse 9 months ago
Their structure of government is interesting. It consist of confederation, cantons, and communes with different amount of people, but they share the power (to the best of my knowledge) equally despite how many people are in each group. Its citizens vote on issues directly and consistently vs our midterm and every four year structure, or our need to call every single government official to convince them on an issue. I’ve always valued their stance on firm neutrality and privacy, but haven’t really done more research to confirm if it exists as they say it does.
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rift 9 months ago
I don’t live in Switzerland but I know most a lot of server there .
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rift 9 months ago
I hope Overton window from Twitter not coming here . Who care about windows … use door !
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rift 9 months ago
What do you want to do without education?
Live there atm. Functions a lot better than other places but seeds of similar far left tendencies as elsewhere. Overall package hard to beat IMO, easy especially for families. Happy to share more if there are specific questions 👍
The most interesting part is how they vote on issues. They go voting on big topics for local regional and national topics. Like 3 times a year. I remember being there when Brexit happened and they being appalled by it. When I talked with my Swiss colleagues they told me. It is so stupid to vote on a topic with a yes or no to a question with so many repercussions. How it works is that the politicians would present what texts would be replaced by the law and how it would be written prior to voting and what the people would vote would be what it would be changed
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tank 9 months ago
yes, there is more personal responsibility and voting on specific issues via direct democracy. Been listening to pods with Swiss expats from Germany recently.
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dackdel 9 months ago
I mean they are second to the usa in arms and ammunition :) that helps keep things minimal.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
You’re mostly right on a superficial level. However, I’d like to correct the statement that „power is shared equally among groups regardless of their size“. In reality, executive and legislative power is generally distributed proportionally based on voting strength.
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Tee 9 months ago
What do you want to know? I'll gladly give some color commentary and insight.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
LOL 😂 what you’re writing isn’t just dumb, it’s wrong! Even orthographically. You‘re such a clown 🤡. (By the way, the town is called Zermatt. And they have very good reasons not to have normal cars - since 1931).
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Guess who broke up with Bretton Woods? As a small country, Switzerland simply couldn’t ignore what the US did to Bretton Woods - otherwise, its export sector would have been wiped out.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Not the swiss parliament, „only“ the „Grosser Rat des Kanton Bern“. Council of Canton Berne.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Swiss here: The government is indeed quite minimalistic and decentralized. It is led by the Federal Council, a seven-member executive body that makes collective decisions rather than being dominated by a single leader. This structure reflects Switzerland’s federal system, where the 26 cantons have significant autonomy. Switzerland also has a bicameral parliament, consisting of the National Council (representing the population) and the Council of States (representing the cantons). Both chambers play a crucial role in legislation and oversight. A key feature of Swiss democracy is direct democracy, where citizens regularly vote in referendums and initiatives on laws and constitutional changes. Additionally, national elections are held to elect members of parliament, shaping the political landscape. This system requires active participation but ensures that political power remains widely distributed. Another key aspect is the militia system, which applies not only to the military but also to politics. Many politicians, especially at the local and cantonal levels, serve part-time while maintaining regular jobs. This fosters a close connection between political decision-makers and everyday citizens, reinforcing Switzerland’s decentralized and participatory governance. I’d be happy to provide you @jack with further details if you’d like.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Can you be more specific? Generally i think we have a rather high level of privacy in Switzerland. E. G. Data Protection, Banking Secrecy, Data Security, Right to Privacy, ….
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the8thHouse 9 months ago
Explain it to me like a 5 year old I guess. In comparison to America or the EU, I’m not sure if you’re from Switzerland, if you were to pick 1 thing, where does Switzerland excel in terms of individual’s right to privacy of their general possessions etc (not just digitally)
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Compared with USOA (if DOGE has an „O“, US of A also gets one): • Banking and Asset Protection – Swiss banking laws offer strong financial privacy, with asset protection structures that provide more confidentiality than U.S. regulations, which enforce greater financial disclosure. I have friends who have to pay US-taxes even if the lived their whole life here, poor dogs. • Property and Home Privacy – Authorities in Switzerland require clear legal justification and court approval for home searches, whereas U.S. law allows for broader law enforcement access under doctrines like “probable cause.” • Surveillance and Public Space Privacy – Switzerland has stricter regulations on public and private surveillance, limiting government and corporate monitoring, whereas the U.S. permits more widespread surveillance with fewer legal barriers. • etc. Every time an US-American starts bragging about their “great American democracy,” I get secondhand embarrassment and think, if only they knew… They should take a closer look at Switzerland or the Scandinavian countries and ideally, visit them.
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the8thHouse 9 months ago
Thanks for the feedback. This is a good starting point to start my research lol
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fleur 9 months ago
we do not negotiate with terrorists. or nazis. the swiss "not taking sides" willingly watched atrocity unfold. and then: they emerged from the war as the quietest, richest nation on the planet "holding" all their stolen wealth under the guise of anonymity. much like masked "hamas" now. they are fascists. a front nation of waffling sadists who pretend they prefer "consensus" and "peace".
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fleur 9 months ago
guess who has 4 private server towers in his house? 👆🏻 i bought a few large storage towers when he told me; they're still in boxes in my garage. as proof it wasn't me. if you're looking for the crypto keys. amazing what you can save on those 30tb towers these days. so i hear. 🤓
This is vastly closer to America’s original design than today’s USA is.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Interesting question! Personally, Liechtenstein almost feels like Switzerland’s 27th canton. They speak a Germanic dialect very similar to Swiss German, use the Swiss franc as their currency, and do not have their own military. Geographically, they occupy the eastern side of a small section of the Upper Rhine Valley, with Switzerland on the western side. This close connection makes them feel very familiar. However, one key difference is that Liechtenstein has a monarch, whereas modern Switzerland has never had a real monarchy.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
🙏 Awesome – thanks for the Zaps! ⚡️
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Opting out – yes. However, whether a municipality could join Switzerland, Germany, or Austria (or XYZ) is not regulated. This would require negotiations. So far, no community has chosen to leave.
I hope that one attempts it so we can see that negotiation process play out. A thing I'm not sure about: If a community opts out but "nobody will take them", do they end up "stuck" in Liechtenstein, or do they get to become a sovereign of their own?
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Charlierwa 9 months ago
This is why the Swiss Franc is so strong and they have an amazing economy, the Swiss actually borrowed from the US constitution in the 1850s, but it is their decentralised system and referendums that really make it amazing.
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nimmzwei 9 months ago
can only support what was said above. to be very honest, having grown up in switzerland, it's hard to understand why so many countries have ruling parties and oppositions. in times like eg COVID it was especially visible that navigating the world was difficult, no matter which party was in charge. Since it was all parties in switzerland, there wasn't some opposition that was claiming that they would have done it all different after the fact
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Christopher 9 months ago
Absolutely love Switzerland and the Swiss (little robots that you are! lol) 🇨🇭♥️
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
It looks like you’re just born salty, completely devoid of any real arguments or understanding of what you’re talking about, and suffering from narrow-mindedness. HFSD.
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I ❤️ @jack 9 months ago
Switzerland is the cleanest country in the world, super strict immigration and high cost of living factor also into this beautiful country. Switzerland has over *1700* public cleanliness fines. And I thought Ann Arbor was bad. My *New America* is better. It’s so perfect.🇺🇸 As an aside, I’m not kidding about Ann Arbor. It was my first snow of the year there and I see all my new neighbors out at 4 and 5 am feverishly snow blowing and shoveling. A citation was on my door promptly at 9am. The second citation came at 4:30 pm because the snow was not cleared to very edge of each side of the sidewalk. I was on the corner too. I had to get it together fast.🌨️☃️🤍 image
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lesco 9 months ago
Does it hurt? I mean breaking the Swiss eco chamber. Nostr is no place for SOMA consumers, keep taking anti depressant to cope with reality. BTW, your nice town still has cars, only the ones approved by the state mafia.
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lesco 9 months ago
It’s funny how you “debate”. Insulting me personally, calling me uneducated while using Wikipedia widely accepted lies as arguments. Just like the Swiss so called neutrality. Just another case of copium severus. Good luck facing challenges as a country with that attitude.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
I’m simply calling a clown by his name—more precisely, a clown trapped in his own tight mirrored box named conspiracy. I wonder how many days you’ve actually spent in Switzerland and where you prefer to live.
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FeyssPalmer 9 months ago
Oh dear, what really hurts is your incompetence. I really don't know what you're trying to teach me about Zermatt or Switzerland in general. You obviously have no idea and you don't live here.
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Asako 9 months ago
Is this your plan? Existed Client.
Sorry, @jack Just saw your message now that I've returned to using NOSTR regularly. Can I do something for you? I am working on #Bitcoin adoption in #Switzerland and am well connected politically.