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Yikes
I don't think my '98 Chevy can spy on me...
This is absolutely insane
Buy an older car ✅
Yes this is why they will push to make them illegal in the name of SAVING THE ENVIROMMENT.
Sick
Thanks
People need to remove the LTE/data modem in the car, and not toggle some setting in a silly app
I think the bigger threat is outlawing unsafe manual driving cars when self driving capabilities become advanced enough to actually replace manually driven cars. It will simply be too unsafe to allow people to drive themselves.
Exactly, but by then we might already have gulags 2.0
Cars are horrible. This is something I try to beat the drum on regularly. Better yet, regular people like me with dealer access have your vehicles location history and so much more just by giving me your VIN.
This should be someone's side hustle. Dismantling all the built-in privacy bugs.
Reminds me of Tron.
"Their vehicles aren't designed to go off grid. They'll not function on this terrain"
Makes me want to buy on old diesel engine and feed it fry oil. Maybe move to the Arizona desert and build an earthship.
It is
Need moar people doing this
Keep Toyota out of your lady…
Ok this Damus bug is getting very difficult to work with.
Fyi the first 3 months at ford their version allowed anyone to see the vehicle's last location.
The other day I had this strange thought.
When cars are “self driving” the owner of a company can literally kill anyone they want with a click of a button.
Just make the car drive off road over a bridge.
I wonder what her asshole tastes like. Would Toyota sell her seat sensor data?
Holy shit that’s dark……because its true.
Holy shit. Can I trust that website to opt out of those things for me?
Government calls this a feature not a bug
Well… government officials will be in these cars.
When “errors” happen.
how would that look?
The messed up part is you can’t hide from something like this even if you keep your old car running.
With cameras everywhere they see your license plate and can push a button to have a self-driving car run into you/run off the road if you’re a malcontent on their list.
I’d feel better with a switch I could turn off or something I can physically unplug in the car. If that’s even possible
Theoretically. Yeah.
And this is not in the distant future. Doing this is actually possible right now.
I should turn my truck into a mad max truck now before I need it.
Yeah, imma get myself a monster truck. 🤣
Get some assless chaps too…just in case.
This one maybe 🤣
Good point but its cleaner if its just driving you off a bridge . Very dark.
People think Michael Hastings was killed this way.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/wikileaks-vault-7-dump-reignites-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-death-of-michael-hastings/news-story/0df1d06403d0223ce1cfc286a1e75325
Welp, smoke if you got ‘em.
Let’s see a cyber truck push that bad boy around.
You could run over a cybertruck with that 🤣
It has gotten increasing attention from the hacking community.
Example-Defcon has had a "car hacking" village and featured talks in the matter for some time.
I see a failure to network between groups and a general dismissive attitude from most of the (auto) service industry and general public overall.
All the big auto makers will be 100% behind the curve when it comes to security.
Cars don't need computers. Give it a microcontroller with some FOSS running on it to tune performance, and maybe active traction. If self-driving is the future, we need an anonymized FOSS solution.
Advertisers don't need to know how much lead is in my foot or how close I follow, let alone all the rest of that privacy nightmare.
FUCK THIS DISTOPYA
If you need an app for your vehicle, get a new (old) one.
At least we can opt out for now with older cars. Eventually those options will be less and less.
Same but I doubt it
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THE SAME PPL THAT RESELL USED PANTIES IN VENDING MACHINES? HMM
That is pretty damn scary
Is she real or AI? 🤖
Yes also amazing how this is somehow legal. What happened to privacy as a right?
The bottom line is this: If we want to have fech that isn't dystopian, we have to build it ourselves.
Now look, I don't make cars, but I do make #smart #thermostats that don't spy on you. #HestiaPi
I'm also started to get involved with the #AirGradient One, which is an #OpenSource air quality monitoring system.
Both projects are 100% #OpenHardware too. This is how I live. If you want nice things, build it or support someone who does. Or don't and just complain about it on social media instead. You do you.
The bottom line is this: If we want to have fech that isn't dystopian, we have to build it ourselves.
Now look, I don't make cars, but I do make #smart #thermostats that don't spy on you. #HestiaPi
I'm also started to get involved with the #AirGradient One, which is an #OpenSource air quality monitoring system.
Both projects are 100% #OpenHardware too. This is how I live. If you want nice things, build it or support someone who does. Or don't and just complain about it on social media instead. You do you.
We can buy USED panties in vending machines??
Great clip, wanted to know more about this for a while now 🙏
In EU, new cars will scream and bully you for exceeding the speed limit that they read off the street signs. Just buy older cars, new ones are full of shit no one asked for
A lot of people willingly bring Alexa and other 'smart' devices into their homes. 95% of people won't care at all. That's why manufacturers and governments can do it. As long as it's convenient, the sheep will allow it.
Where are the GPS or cellular chips and can they simply be unplugged or intentionally damaged?
I don't need to go dark yet, but I like being ready.
I, for a short stint, had Google home devices in every room. Alarm clock, broadcast dinner's ready, timers, doorbell that showed the video on the screen in the kitchen and phones. But then I started realizing.
I still have the doorbell and locks and a couple of google home devices, but it's nuts when I'm making my seedphrase with my wife for my cold card and she was writing it down and I said, sorry, I can't say the words out loud because your phone listens as does google home. All the technology is in place to make 1984 a reality and places like the UK are beginning to make the actions of "the party" a reality.
Always had been.
Most consumer devices aren't meant to be secure. Just convenient.
That’s because these mega corps love total control just like their political counterparts
Automotive software should be open source, just like all other software, otherwise we’re all slaves to their whims
Big data. This the world is heading.
I don't disagree.
All attempts at open sourcing anything (by aftermarket, small scale operations) is generally met with immediate rejection by well lobbied state authority.
my 12 year old bitch mobile has never looked so good lol
20yo cars only
What is the beginning year for this type of tracking equipment?
2005? 2015?
insane.
Good question I am not sure maybe someone on Nostr knows #asknostr
Wow. I knew it was bad- but had no idea the extent. Don’t drive cars newer than 2010
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Tesla collects way more data ..but they don't sell it .. and they throw in the free navigation ..
But older the car better it is ..just like 32 bit computers ..
I can confirm that many US-based Porsche dealerships discretely install a tracking device on cars as they arrive from Germany prior to customer delivery. It’s done within hours of the vehicle arriving at the dealer.
Customer requests to remove it are deflected or outright refused, forcing him to threaten to kill the deal if the tracking device stays. Only then will they grudgingly remove it.
The tracking is performed by a company named Stargard. If you obtain account credentials and login, you’ll see they keep a log of every location the vehicles visits.
Wow these stories get worse and worse. Big data is a cancer and the worse part is they are all pretty shitty at securing this data.
Guess I’m riding my bike til I’m dead 😵
#Bitcoin fixes this
The LTE modem is usually inside the stereo/multimedia screen housing
Some cars have several modems, somewhere around the ECU
All of these things are coming about because of financial incentives.
Find a way to create a better incentive and change the world
Wtff, this is ridiculous. And companies already want to add subscriptions for heated seats and other crap.
Bitcoin offers an alternatives to funding and incentivizing research and development.
However, there is little interest shown by BTC maxis in moving this direction.
Wonder if you can just pull the fuse on the cellular radio.
I am sure there are people that specialize in this already might become a bigger thing. I got to look more into it.
If Elon were on our side he would fully open source Tesla's hard- and software.
*Email from your car*
"We've updated our privacy policy..."
What a crazy timeline
Modern cars litteraly have sim cards, find it and remove it. Never connect your phone to your car in any form of way. Never save locations as destination in the cars dashboard.
If you too lazy, get an old car
this is astonishing
but it would be naïve to think just clicking some buttons will actually turn the tracking off
Insane, will get an old car, don't want to deal with all that sh*t 😤
IT'S A TRAP! To check your data privacy status, you have to log in. To login, you have to "sign up". Nobody remembers signing up! 🤣
wonder if my 2015 buggy has one 🧐 will have to look
Thanks!
And that's why I'm now upgrading car from 2002 to 2006.
Perhaps it's possible to replace the infotainment system without affecting the road worthyness certifications...
Nothing new but ... When #Carstr?
"I have nothing to hide..."
I suspect if you put in your Tesla VIN you may be surprised...
Taxi suddenly seems like a good form of mobility.
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That's not how it works, you should open an LLC and buy car on LLC name. Lawyers know how to do it properly. Privacy is not free....