Deepseek v4 is about 95% as good as Opus I would say, and is 95% cheaper
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Can confirm. Using it as my daily driver now.
Even their flash version is pretty good and even cheaper.
haven't tried, but my reference is gpt-5.5, probably not close
I thought you devs were saying deepseek is malware or china spyware
What happened. Hahahaha im just asking
It very likely is, I would not use as a personal agent. But for open source coding with zero privacy expectations and full code auditability I think it makes sense
Flash seems to have slowed down. Maybe nerfed a bit or maybe it is word getting out.
I would say it is overused now. Most of the rankings are full of it's name.
It is. The price is not real - probably state aponsored and this is how they are collecting data.
This is the way!
Different classes. This is what matters here.
Agree
Stop paying for chat bots, period. It's so dumb
Real AI would only need your data as incentive
GLM 5.2 maxing.
when I have used deepseek I get a lot of rambling that uses way more tokens
Opencode and openclaw.
Flash is currently free on OpenCode.
@npub16g4u...kv4h as router, or opencode zen for the free Flash version.
Opus Day-1 release or cucked-ass current Opus?
Can you local host deepseek v4?
Not unless you're rich af
I 95% agree.
Also is my current choice
Opus getting that EOL demensia..
agreed. has entropic got their kyc honeypot running with persona yet? that was the thing that killed it for me, not the failble bullcrap but the dario saying "we must not let teh plebs, i mean bad people, have the good robot" so fucking stupid. fable was not substantially better than opus 4.6. deepsnek 95, opus 4.6 98. fable *maybe* 99.
if you ask me the LLM tech is maxed, they can't go better without a new thing.
The dot com bubble burst not because the internet wasn't revolutionary, but because investment capital FOMO'd into the space in retarded ways that were disjoint from how and when the internet would actually reshape society.
And the same exact thing is happening with #AI; all money has thrown patience out the window, taking on the hazard of assuming the picture of #AI is understood well enough to place all the bets now.
It's not.
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