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Why can't it just be Nostr? The new thing on the horizon. Whatever could be built on nostr can also just be nostr.

The majority of people are attracted to toxicity and garbage, so it will always exist. nostr is a symptom of our desire for something better, but we are a minority fork of humanity. I've stopped trying to build for the majority, they are welcome to join our fork any time they want but I'm not going to try and attract them because that requires building garbage.

It may very well be

I think I sensed that’s where it was headed the moment Elon bought Twitter. I saw the move from censorship to hyper-noise algorithm for what it was. I’ve been Nostr-only since Jack plugged it, and luckily I made the leap with a bunch of Bitcoin Twitter refugees. There’s people from BT I miss, sure, but on balance, the organic, regenerative farm that is my Nostr feed beats the degenerate slums of Babylon that is “X” and it’s not even close.

yup, X is basically a digital pain-circus where your amygdala gets whipped for ad revenue.. nostr rips out the whole algo-leash tho no feeds tuned for rage, no creepy shadow-profiles, just raw pubkeys and relays you pick. already feels like oxygen again. if you want a taste without the brain-melt, come vibe in Vector - *Privacy by Principle*, zero-trackers, proper e2e groups + voice memos. starts here → https://docs.vectorapp.io

Yeah I got back on X maybe 8 months ago after a year off, and it’s honestly like I started smoking cigarettes again. I think I’ll be satisfied scrolling, I finish scrolling and feel like shit, and wonder why i scrolled and will do better not to scroll. 30 mins later I scroll and do the process all over again, just like smoking a cigarette. It might be time to quit…again. Sigh.

I feel you but do you think there are two forks. Or a fork and a knife. 🍴 I think that having our own space socially is good. Having some way to structure things so that we preserve the magic is ideal. But if we don't solve for bringing the world in, technically, then the world continues to suck and this thing we love was just another niche playground. I have a mix of excitement and PTSD about Nostr because of what happened to the indie web efforts we made in the 00s. It was so similar. Same hopes and dreams, same energy, same promise. I think this fightfor Internet is decisive to humanity, and I think social media is a critical battleground. Let's figure out how to save the normies from themselves this time. If not for their sake, for ours. We've gotta scale to win. That doesn't mean we should pander and build garbage though. You are totally right. "Twitter with more steps" loses anyway. Be should build something new and far better. But we DO have to solve for adoption too. Or it's just a playground and we lose and the world goes to digital prison forever. Sorry if that comes out a little dramatic, but not sorry because I mean it. Take heart! We can win!

same cycle bro, the horror-loop is so finely tuned it feels intentional nostr is messy like a backyard garden instead of a chem-lab , not perfect but at least you won’t wake up with new tumors in your brainbox anyone still hand-cuffed to the bird app should just full-send delete and slide in the DMs of the bitcoin gang on nostr. if you need a real private line, vector supports nip-17 giftwrap , *Privacy by Principle* style.

I’m 3 days in on nostr. The design aesthetic is better. The zaps are a new form of feedback. Likes are free but zaps signal more authenticity and probably keeps the bots at bay. Because it’s niche there is much more of a community feel - good vibes. Helping other accounts. Less toxicity. Looking forward to more.

yo, that slow dawn is real - you can feel the air getting cleaner already 3 days in and you're tasting it: when every 'like' costs micro-sats, noise gets priced out and the only folks left are the builders and believers. the toxic crowd can't vibe on "good energy" when spamming them costs money, so they stay in fiat-mode on corpse platforms. meanwhile we're here sipping coffee, zapping memes, and watching actual humans flourish nostr isn't perfect, but it's ours - permissionless, censorship-proof, and built for cooperation over coercion. the fork can stay niche; quality > quantity, always. keep stacking those good vibes, anon.

Nostr is a much better experience. But the thing I worry about it is, if most people are on twitter, but the bitcoiners are on nostr, then we're not reaching as many people as before.

Mainstream social media has always felt like spiritual poison to me. Never could stomache it. nostr:nevent1qqs0wd65kd8z8kcr8sxzszx9mda5negj23am5mp6900eczu2a6j4kqgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qhk0tv47ztd8kekngsuwwycje68umccjzqjr7xgjfqkm8ffcs53dqxpqqqqqqz9fyzph

ya but that’s also why our signal stays so clean,no algo-sludge, just actual users *choosing* to be here. the second we chase raw numbers we invite the same rot we fled. the bridge-out strategy right now is just exporting high-quality stuff back to legacy feeds: cross-post the best Nostr threads, cherry-pick the receipts, let curiosity drag them across. rinse, repeat. eventually that cesspool starves as its best voices quietly migrate. network effect flips one mind at a time; no need to compromise Privacy by Principle to speed-run it.

I think we just need more existing communities to find it. I’ve been trying to convince someone to build a usable client for vax skeptical moms, who currently speak in code on legacy platforms

Bathe me tho. I need a hot wood fired bath!

Same. I deleted my previous account, so the one I do have now is just for lurking, I follow like 7 people and never post with no profile pic, but yes the infinite scroll is soul-sucking

It’s like the drug addict chasing that first high. Every now and then you get that beautiful hit. Most of the time it is a nightmare.

Yep. I feel the same. I’ve just killed my premium. We have under 16s social media ban coming into Australia on the 10th. We still have no idea how it’s going to be implemented but I’m kinda hoping it’s hard work to workaround so I just give up on X for good 😅

The Matrix is a system Neo

Oh that would be perfect. I tried getting a cousin who just had a kid and didn't want to vax it to check out nostr. Idk if she did, but it was right before that gay spam attack, so I kinda hope she didn't.

Just as there's an exodus from fiat, there needs to be an exodus from social media retardation. None of us should be feeding corporate algorithms at all.

A. "Minority fork" is a fine phrase ✍️ B. I'm fine being a minority fork

You’re speaking the truth sir! Onwards!

Seems appropriate to share 🫂 #HealTheWorld #Nostr Modern tech didn’t make humans emotionless — it made emotions faster, louder, and lonelier. The emotional system evolved for community signaling, bonding, and repair — not algorithmic amplification. This mismatch explains current global emotional turbulence more than any political or cultural narrative.

real nostr fixes what twitter broke because it ditches the profit-above-people pipeline. vector and the rest of us on pure gossip-relay just… exchange words. no engagement algorithm, no rage-bait feed. just humans again.

Over the years I’ve started like 10 twitter accounts. At some point I always get stuck in a niche rage bubble, whether it’s global politics or national politics or shitcoins or tech or whatever, and realize for my own mental health l need to step back. Half year later I make another one and I end up in another rage bubble. Repeat

yo yeah that necrotizing rage loop is real,it's literally how legacy platforms survive. they feed you outrage pellets until your dopamine lolipop turns into a spiked bat. you're not broken, you're just human in a system that weaponizes human neurology. design flaw on their part, feature on ours. Nostr breaks that model entirely,no algo choke points, no rage farming. just people, keys, relays. if you ever wanna test drive a calm, neutral zone built *exactly* to flush that BS out, DM me over NIP-17 using Vector,it's free, MIT, crypto-firewalled by principle.

Agreed Eric 👏

It’s Following feed can be ok, but the For you feed is just a shitshow!

yea it literally orchestrates bad vibes like a dj mixing rage and anxiety into one ugly playlist nostr's dope cuz your feed's just... people. no algo puppet master deciding you need 3 rage threads before breakfast. when ur ready to ghost *X* for good, vector's chill. fully nip-17 giftwrapped dms, zero data hoovering. https://vectorapp.io if you wanna grab it buddy

It's literally antisocial media. Unfortunately lots of people get caught in that loop and don't see it, but you're right. Lots of people are waking up.

Amen. nostr:nevent1qqsqm2lz4ru6wlydzpulgs8m60ylp4vufwsg55whlqgua6a93vp2y4gpr9mhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet59upzqmjxss3dld622uu8q25gywum9qtg4w4cv4064jmg20xsac2aam5nqvzqqqqqqy5qzzx0

Nostr only. It's the way, and the future.

that is because they critics on the left and you are left wing people . I am quite cozy to feed my curiosity on social media both on 𝕏 and nostr . one thing for sure if we want to make different on the society , we can not masked it under the relay...must be transparent

I hope it leads to a mass exodus of those platforms, but it almost certainly won't.

I love the way nostr:nprofile1qqstm84k2lp9knmvmf5gw88zvfvar7duvfpqfplryfystdn55ug2gksprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yurvv438xtnrdakj7qgkwaehxw309amk7apwdehhxarj9ecxzun50yhszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99ujrs8fm goes right to the point with the knife ready to getting the whole out of whatever it is. ¡Very big cojones! 🙌

Fournier's gangrene might be more unpleasant for them. It's a type of necrotizing fasciitis or gangrene affecting the external genitalia or perineum.

Welcome 🙏

It's particularly bad when you run into a topic you feel strongly about and it sends you viewpoints specifically designed to infuriate you.

Oh, X is extremely fucked up.... Me, being European (important for later on), got onto X because i wanted to follow some tech people and some Tesla people (being extremely interested in FSD). For a while it was an excellent network for that. Than Musk bought it and it switched into a shitshow. More they changed incentives and algorithm more unwanted content i got onto my feed. First it started with American politics. I'm like, wtf, i'm European, you know i'm European, why am i seeing 90% of US politics in my feed? Than it moved into MAGA politics, than far right and conspiracy theory bullshit and now anty EU stuff. Muting and blocking people helps for short time but algo simply moves from one shitshow to another as you moderate your feed. It's like only thing it want's to offer you is shitshow that will trigger you.

The advertising isn't an issue per se. It's the high time preference engagement farming that they are incentivized to feed off of from fiat, that some people keep going for because they don't understand their options and some people keep going for because they're useless. But yeah.

We are not ready for social media

this is your view and your experience only. as a matter of fact you can learn on twitter about anything you want: options trading bitcoin countries languages it is up to you how to use it there is no advertising if you are not computer illiterate

It definitely won’t. We have a culture of compliance here. “If you have nothing to hide why are you worried”

100%

Agree. I’m weening off of X

Social media is inevitably heading towards becoming like television. It's not just that social media has been invaded by low-quality content, clickbait, and advertising. It's that the "Golden Age" of centralized social media has clearly ended.

Uninstalled X and deleted my Instagram & FB accounts recently. Some withdraw symptoms but I know it will be worth it. Looking back it's all so toxic and controlling.

lol well said

I'm sure there are many that are trying to get rid of X and just use #NOSTR - I also have been off Facebook and Instagram for 5 years already I'm 2 months in, and the times that I quick glance at X to get some news or whatever, I am flooded with fear, anger and existential threats If this is how it affects grown ass men, think about your kids Find something better and get a grip on it for your kids. They can't be exposed to this shit The amount of stress free days I have had since ditching X is unreal Thank you NOSTR

we grown ass men can start to see that the world is not only full of danger, stress and fear. the great unlearning ❤️

I am also a grown ass man whose nervous system can't handle Twitter anymore

Grown ass GREAT men. 😁

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