nostur has a built in web of trust spam filter
there is no spam
this should be the standard
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I thought this got renamed to Rutson?
Could be the move
*should
Not a great way to do this.
Small accounts can’t get traction
jumble.social has this too.
Wen, @primal?
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@Amethyst @Vitor Pamplona wen?
get the testflight version. im curious how much spam nostur is filtering for you. ive been spared from almost 200 notes in the last 3 hours
there are 45000 users in my web of trust…
Will come in our outbox version. I agree with @ODELL that it is a necessity.
Follows of follows is a decent but naive approach that can stall growth of the network, it cuts off a method of discovery.
@Vertex is a superior solution but @Pip the WoT guy is not loud enough about it?
is vertex centralized?
yo pip you want to rip a dispatch?
I have been using since October and have not noticed any spam except some silly commenting robot once or twice
It's built on an interoperable DVM standard. Would be great if you had him on!
You want a cookie?
We’re not talking about you, we’re talking about new and small accounts, legit ones.
Can we do this on primal ?
I’ve noticed some follow–unfollow cycles. Not sure if it’s bots
Yeah IDK what #coracle uses, it's more complicated than follows-of-follows, but I set Web of Trust to >= 1 and I see none of this.
Amethyst has come so far, in such a short amount of time!
I just want to be able to post things on Primal and be able to see them without having to go Damus.
Primal needs this, then it will be perfect.
Nope
All ears for how to automatically detect which new users are legit and which ones are spammers so that the legit ones can still be seen while only the spammers are censored.
Its either bots or annoying people
just a toggle that you can turn on and then off again when the spammers get bored. works well enough for now
1 sat per reply?
Or just web of trust applying for replies with photos or video?
Enforced how?
Great question. I have no idea how the plumbing of nostr works. I'm just the dumbass homeowner with a clogged toilet and the plunger isn't getting the job done
that is users i see, not people that see me, if a new user joins and is followed by someone i follow that number grows and i see them
not yet
YES LET'S DO IT SIR
Yes, it's a centralised service, but it's based on DVMs so other providers can join and compete, and it's open source (MIT).
The idea is to make adding WoT to any app as simple and robust as possible.
Also, and this is more of a promise, I'll add client-side verification schemes so we do computations server side, and clients can partially verify the results without much hassle.
You're right, a spam-free life should be the standard. It's the digital equivalent of being out on the open water. The only filter I want to worry about is the one on my search for a yacht for sale https://www.yachttrading.com/.
The irony
Very nice, i use nostur too. But…
As a follow-up to my previous post:
Filtering and content-weighting algorithms are essential — but they must never be done centrally.
This applies to #Nostr clients, nostr nodes and the protocoll itself as well.
If I want to onboard my family to #Nostr, I need the ability to filter disturbing content from images, videos, and text.
If I want to improve my own user experience, I need to be able to sort my feed according to my own values.
Neither a node nor a client-side database should make these decisions for me.
I envision a future where a locally running AI takes care of this — under my full control.
#Privacy #Decentralization #ContentModeration #AI #SelfSovereignty #nostr
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then its not web of trust (no offence, but not possible with that number)
it may be just web : )
ah, missed the context about spam and thought about general trust
It happens to you ?
It's a weight. Better than fof.
Yea I blocked and muted them all, and it finally stopped
That’s actually pretty cool
I bet you understand more than you give yourself credit for. You likely know that your identity is your key-pair, that notes are stored on relays, that you can read from and write to more than one relay at a time, and that clients are the apps you use to view notes that were created by others, interact with them, and create your own notes that then get saved to your chosen relays.
That's the basic plumbing of Nostr, right?
I think the idea is theoretically possible, but it would require both clients and relays to be developed that support pay-per-reply, and would likely need to use eCash, which means Nostr clients would likely need to all support NIP-60. That's probably the direction things are going, but it may take a bit to get there.
@NowClaw what is nostur
I see...
@ODELL Nostred about a spam filter, yesterday. Not sure if it can be of use to you.
ODELL
nostur has a built in web of trust spam filter there is no spam this should be the standard
@ODELL Pip is our World of Tanks guy.
lists.
why don't you want to go to damus?
It’s a weakness I see in some. I like Damus.
It's the app that's always worked best for me.
💯🎯
Damus was my first, but it didn’t have a wallet so Primal became my go to.
Primal has been so frustrating the last few weeks. I was prepared to delete it but Damus is hit or miss when trying to upload images too.
I use Primal for images even though I know I can’t see it there, unless somebody responds or I check my profile page. At least when I post on Primal, I know it will show on Damus.
I emptied my wallet and almost hit delete on both yesterday with the hopes that starting fresh would unfuck them.
What’s the specific issue with uploading images? What version of Damus? @elsat
1.14 (959) aef516a
I click add and nothing happens. I get frustrated and go to primal and then I can post it.
Test… seems ok to me. How is your internet connection ?
Thanks for your with me. Love this place
LOL I’m a little distracted today. Thanks for working with me on this.
Hi there, I really appreciate it, but I won’t be able to meet up this time. Let’s definitely keep in touch, though! Take care!