Three weeks ago I wrote an article on the EU's new AMLR in Bitcoin Magazine, detailing how the EU passed ALM laws restricting the use of Bitcoin privacy tools without any data to back up their claims that privacy heightens money laundering and terrorist financing risks. Alex Stachtchenko took it a step further and ran the numbers. For every Euro confiscated, 200€ are spent. This means that the EU's AML compliance costs of 144B Euro exceeds all money ascribed to crime per year at 110B Euro – and still, 99% of criminal profits escape confiscation. Despite their absolute inefficiency AML laws continue to be expanded, subjecting all EU citizens to total financial surveillance for the price of catching 1%. It is a system that has grown completely out of control and is in no way proportionate to the right to privacy enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It's a long read, and its in French so you'll need to translate it, but I guarantee that it will be worth every minute of your time. BM article: Alex' article: https://medium.com/@AlexStach/les-d%C3%A9rives-de-la-surveillance-financi%C3%A8re-menacent-nos-d%C3%A9mocraties-323fbdc1ccbf

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This is insane.
L0la L33tz's avatar L0la L33tz
Three weeks ago I wrote an article on the EU's new AMLR in Bitcoin Magazine, detailing how the EU passed ALM laws restricting the use of Bitcoin privacy tools without any data to back up their claims that privacy heightens money laundering and terrorist financing risks. Alex Stachtchenko took it a step further and ran the numbers. For every Euro confiscated, 200€ are spent. This means that the EU's AML compliance costs of 144B Euro exceeds all money ascribed to crime per year at 110B Euro – and still, 99% of criminal profits escape confiscation. Despite their absolute inefficiency AML laws continue to be expanded, subjecting all EU citizens to total financial surveillance for the price of catching 1%. It is a system that has grown completely out of control and is in no way proportionate to the right to privacy enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It's a long read, and its in French so you'll need to translate it, but I guarantee that it will be worth every minute of your time. BM article: Alex' article: https://medium.com/@AlexStach/les-d%C3%A9rives-de-la-surveillance-financi%C3%A8re-menacent-nos-d%C3%A9mocraties-323fbdc1ccbf
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So then really ask yourself, in what situation has your government ever been so altruistic, and at a global scale too. Who earns that €200 to €1 difference? Usually in situations like this, such regulations create opportunities that regulators can jump on... "you must do X", "also ~my friend~ this company has been licensed to do that already for a fee of course."
L0la L33tz's avatar L0la L33tz
Three weeks ago I wrote an article on the EU's new AMLR in Bitcoin Magazine, detailing how the EU passed ALM laws restricting the use of Bitcoin privacy tools without any data to back up their claims that privacy heightens money laundering and terrorist financing risks. Alex Stachtchenko took it a step further and ran the numbers. For every Euro confiscated, 200€ are spent. This means that the EU's AML compliance costs of 144B Euro exceeds all money ascribed to crime per year at 110B Euro – and still, 99% of criminal profits escape confiscation. Despite their absolute inefficiency AML laws continue to be expanded, subjecting all EU citizens to total financial surveillance for the price of catching 1%. It is a system that has grown completely out of control and is in no way proportionate to the right to privacy enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It's a long read, and its in French so you'll need to translate it, but I guarantee that it will be worth every minute of your time. BM article: Alex' article: https://medium.com/@AlexStach/les-d%C3%A9rives-de-la-surveillance-financi%C3%A8re-menacent-nos-d%C3%A9mocraties-323fbdc1ccbf
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HoloKat 1 year ago
It has never been about money laundering. They know it. We know it. They laugh, we don’t.
The political class is corrupt and they are definitely not working in the interests of mankind. Bitcoin is a gift that can liberate the people and reduce the power of the political elites. So they fight to maintain the status quo.
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JD 1 year ago
Exactly this.
💯 AML and KYC was always about mandating digital ID verification everywhere so that governments can implement social credit scores and via them treat dissenters as third-class citizens. The old carrot and the stick via a score system.
This does sound pretty insane, though the counterfactual "what would have been the 'criminal funds generated annually' had €0 been spent on compliance instead of €144Bn" is worth thinking about (that which is unseen) -- but the bar is still very high, if expenditure is €144Bn then the crime it prevented would have to be on the order of €1Tn to be merely ~10% complicance loss... which is a lot of 'crime'.
AML laws are laundering money from the tax payer to bureaucrats and their friends in tech...
and yet not one word from you or shitcoin magazine about how plebs are being fleeced into ponzi schemes and reducing their own on chain privacy willingly via ordinals and other shitcoin schemes that abuse the current datacarriersize exploit that everyone blindly running core instead of knots is supporting. Start talking about the real issues you fucking phony
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Krv 1 year ago
It should be obvious that expenditures o AML is buying them something other that what they state. I think its more about assuring people can't avoid taxes and other financial controls as easily. It may also be about making it so the connected people can share in the proceeds of crime by selling 'looking the other way' to those who can afford it.
I expected it to be bad... but 200 to1?! That's way beyond what even I would have expected! The only thing that makes this sort of garbage possible is the infinite spending enabled by fiat. View quoted note →
> For every Euro confiscated, 200€ are spent. This means that the EU's AML compliance costs of 144B Euro exceeds all money ascribed to crime per year at 110B Euro – and still, 99% of criminal profits escape confiscation. Insanity.
L0la L33tz's avatar L0la L33tz
Three weeks ago I wrote an article on the EU's new AMLR in Bitcoin Magazine, detailing how the EU passed ALM laws restricting the use of Bitcoin privacy tools without any data to back up their claims that privacy heightens money laundering and terrorist financing risks. Alex Stachtchenko took it a step further and ran the numbers. For every Euro confiscated, 200€ are spent. This means that the EU's AML compliance costs of 144B Euro exceeds all money ascribed to crime per year at 110B Euro – and still, 99% of criminal profits escape confiscation. Despite their absolute inefficiency AML laws continue to be expanded, subjecting all EU citizens to total financial surveillance for the price of catching 1%. It is a system that has grown completely out of control and is in no way proportionate to the right to privacy enshrined in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It's a long read, and its in French so you'll need to translate it, but I guarantee that it will be worth every minute of your time. BM article: Alex' article: https://medium.com/@AlexStach/les-d%C3%A9rives-de-la-surveillance-financi%C3%A8re-menacent-nos-d%C3%A9mocraties-323fbdc1ccbf
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U 1 year ago
So the yearly cost of the EU AML attempts is apparently higher than the yearly tax revenue of an entire country like Finland or Israel 👀
It is very similar to war on (software, media) piracy, the cost is higher than profits from the policy.
Yeah, I think these numbers are a bit off. But the mainstream financial press is also having this discussion. Its very hard to justify the current AML regime. It’s not just a crazy bitcoiner argument 😅
> If authorities recover around $3 billion per annum from criminals, whilst imposing compliance costs of $300 billion and penalizing businesses another $8 billion a year, it is reasonable to ask if the real target of anti-money laundering laws is legitimate enterprises rather than criminal enterprises. 🖐️ || 🎤 ___