I remember when they would call you a lunatic for saying this kind of tracking was possible. Now it’s in commercial products as a feature. image

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I member. Hard wire with Ethernet ports folks Lots of routers these days don't have the option to turn off WiFi but you can block it with mylar emergency blankets (like the ones for camping)
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Austin 7 months ago
*Than just detect motion
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drea 7 months ago
believe me when I say it's been in use for longer than people realize.
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I remember when they would call you a lunatic for saying this kind of tracking was possible. Now it’s in commercial products as a feature. image
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rfc 7 months ago
I must say, that's pretty scary.
*starts looking into how phones can detect brainwaves for Ai to analyze for large corporations. *looks into how wifi routers know where you're at in your house, at all times. *wonders how phones with cell service are any different than some wifi routers. *realized phones have cameras and the privacy breaches are way worse than anyone thinks or can fathom. *Gets lost in the rabbit hole - a reply of mine from last year... 🥱 Yall are just figuring this out? 🤣
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*starts looking into how phones can detect brainwaves for Ai to analyze for large corporations. *looks into how wifi routers know where you're at in your house, at all times. *wonders how phones with cell service are any different than some wifi routers. *realized phones have cameras and the privacy breaches are way worse than anyone thinks or can fathom. *Gets lost in the rabbit hole
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Phased array antenna magic ✨. WiFi, 5G, advanced radar ... they're all basically the same thing
Ii remember when the first research paper came out of MIT with this idea, about a billion years ago
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Adam Montano 7 months ago
Yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's consumer service.
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Karadenizli 7 months ago
Everyone needs to switch to openWRT. It's not too hard. The easiest is a glinet router which uses openWRT but has a nice UI skin.
Geo fence us all in and ping our ears cruel unusual and, inhumane, must be a recipe from disaster dishes... 🍽️📡🛰️
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MindMining 7 months ago
Monitoring/logging the the dampening of a WiFi signal between fixed WiFi items and WiFi router in your house assumes a person blocking the signal temporarily and can be used as an input for an early warning/notification system. Same as a sudden change in infrared (heat) can be used to trigger a light to switch on. Like how a PIR sensor switch works. There will be times the PIR will be triggered and the light goes on, but there's no person to be found. So it is by no means a verification that what triggered the switch was in fact a person.
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chrizzz 7 months ago
People don't like change but they do like convenience
SWITCHING BACK TO ETHERNET ASAP. FASTER ANYWAY #FUCKCONVENIENCE
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Engineer 7 months ago
Some possible mitigations: - Buy your own modem or modem/router combo for $50-100, if your ISP supports 3rd-party modems (most that I've used do) - Buy your own router for $50-100, hardwire it to the ISP-provided modem; connect everything else only to your own router. This is possible with any ISP. If the ISP-provided device includes WiFi, disable it via the admin interface if possible - If you aren't using the WiFi on the ISP-provided device, you can often unscrew the antennas (may not be 100% effective, but can't hurt) - If you're more technically inclined, and your router sipports it, flash OpenWrt or similar open-source firmware
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bluepanda3 7 months ago
And then what? "Hello, Police? Yes, there's intruders in my holiday home. What... no... the WiFi router told me. " 16 hrs later... "Hello, sir... Yes, we sent a patrol round. Yep, looks like all your stuff is gone and they've left a helluva mess... Yes... yes... human faeces on the floor. Ok then, have a nice day."
That would explain why my isp was providing free setup $35/month fiber. Thankfully i ditched the isp router immediately...