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Whai is bip444?
Plain visible porn is already on a block thtough core v30. Thank you and your funding.
Sign in with lightning and phoenix doesn't work. At least in my case.
It’s a way to fix the absolute mess left by core30.
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not so humble
Love to see it!
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Don’t gamble your sats if you do shitty predictions like this one:
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not a prediction, that is a simple fact
works with me and phoenix
might be your browser causing problems
it is bitcoin only
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humble enough
Will try again
Did you missed the ai porn stuff that just got mined? Who do you think enabled that? Ever thought what will be uploaded next?
Nice, been waiting for something like this. Hopefully the odds will change :p
Interesting.
The resolving mechanism is outside of Bitcoin. The only real Bitcoin bet is at consensus level on a true fork.
Humble enough to take sats from anyone that votes yes.
I set it up 😂
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Was possible before v30 already 😂
This whole bip is a mess!
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Doesn’t matter doesn’t care
The word plain did not ring any bell? Do your research.
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Way to call in the cuck commander
I set up the market, I’m sorry this is happening to you
@JB I see you and your bet 😜
In the same way that shooting yourself in the face is a great way to clean up the mess made by cutting your hand.
Worded as a trick. BIP 444 can never be the chain tip with the most work because it calls for a rollback.
Even if they fork and most miners follow them 10 minute blocks on both chains they may not ever catch up.
Just Proof of concept that core 3.0 is/was a bad idea.
I was THE FIRST better, bro
That isn’t how bitcoin works, but all of you 444 proponents make a market so I can dump there with your wording
It’s visible if you extract the data as a specific encoding. You could do this with 10000 smaller transactions and it’s the same thing.
The pearl clutching over this is retarded.
I think you mean it’s a BIP for absolute morons.
Ok, give me a nom retarded justification to allow the destruction of a filter that worked perfectly. Supporting this atrocity in the default implementation is retarded. By far.
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Ofc.
Filters can still be run. You are free to run whatever relay policy you want. The network is better off if the relay policy is in close alignment with what the consensus policy is so the defaults shouldn’t be filtered so far below consensus.
Op return exists because it is less damaging to the chain than the alternative methods people where using which cannot be stopped. Spammers don’t care about your virtue signals. Pretending that one large op_return is worse than many utxo bloating alternatives from a legal or moral stance is retarded.
Well, at least I have the retarded utxo blowup answer. Thanks.
Don’t forgot to claim your free bucket of pleb slop. Kratter will redeem one bucket for every utxo blow up comment harvested.
The market now prices a soft fork at under 0.5%.
This means that if you think BIP 444 activates, and becomes the main chain, you can 200x your bitcoin.
Don’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.
Now, Predyx is custodial, but no one would take me up on the trust less market.
@Bitcoin Mechanic there are a lot less eyeballs on NOSTR so maybe you’ll respond here instead of X.
Offer still stands for 1BTC wager to do it trustlessly with taproot. You can also just pick up the free 200x and bet yes on predyx.
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spammers also don't care about utxo bloat and putting spam in op_return is more expensive than putting in witness data with taproot so they have no incentive.
10000 smaller txs is a lot more expensive.
True. But other use cases exist that could be done in damaging ways or less damaging ways. If we make it so only the more damaging path is available we ensure that will be the path taken.
If we don’t supply a method for harm reduction we are choosing to have the chain more bloated.
People trying to harm bitcoin don’t consider cost. I think putting anything on chain is fucking stupid, but it happens and has happened since the very beginning. At the end of the day we are talking about 4mb blocks that cost at least 6k to fill up. That’s not very much data and it’s a self limiting problem since sustained data stuffing attacks get very expensive very quickly.
OK so lets all stop pretending that op_return change is for any other reason other than Citrea needs, bc yes they can use op_return and it's less harmful, and the discussion can be focused on that use case, and for that the app limit could be just enough for Citrea to use, and put it on a consensus level so that miner follow that. this way everyone would be happy, instead we are making discussion points about porn and other crap. There is a specific use case and either it's allowed in a controlled manner to diminish any attack surface(spam/porn) or we don't support the use case at all and block that use case at consensus level.
individuals considering cost or not it's a limit on the ammount of spam that gets into the chain every year, that why we have fees.
Sure I’m fine with that. But Luke jr and his band of retards won’t accept that. They want this fight and they want to control Bitcoin. Luke has always been crazy but he is absolutely lost his mind now.
The issue with your plan is what happens when the next project comes along and needs a change? Do we re litigate this whole thing? Or do we tell them to fuck off and then live with the consequences of a bloated utxo? What if that use case is super popular and the bloated utxo ruins everything?
I think the devs are trying to simplify things and not spend all their time doing this pointless shit. We have actual stuff we need to prepare for and this is frankly a distraction.
I agree. That’s why the concern over spam is over blown. I don’t think there is a spam problem. I don’t think we should be letting reactionaries drive anything.
Lukes concern are valid op_return chances were pushed even though the community was divided. the case where a project can come along and needs a change can still happen now in core 30, if a project needs a full block of data that inscriptions have already done with the help of miners what then? Will we put op_return to a full block because well miners can already do it and in op_return is better. We have to decide what is reasonable and what is not, if citrea can use those bytes for zk proofs other can too, all other bad options for data must be restricted and more expensive than op_return. All those projects like Citrea are making us all make changes to accommodate when no one knows what the utility of them will be, we can not bend the knee to any new project needs.
I think you can fuck off on Ethereum or somewhere.
No you
No one is making anyone make changes. Miners can put non standard block in the chain despite the node software, and we really don’t want utxo bloat.
None of this is changing the blocksize and all the hand wringing about spam is massively overblown. The chain is practically free to transact on currently, this is why the spam narrative has been abandoned in favor of the csam narrative. The csam narrative is an appeal to emotions but makes little logical sense.
Your mom was a mess a she came up with you 🤷♂️
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Ok drama queen. It’s a temporary soft fork. It’s in the name even.
is it a KYCed market?
nope
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