I love how the only one who replied was the spam guy 😂

I think that works for those of us that have been here a while, been wondering what it does to the onboarding experience for newbies

Yeah, newbies will be lost here.

I don't see it 🥹

This isn't an attack, it's a lesson. Just like revealing IPs was a lesson. Complacency will be punished.

Muting, blocking, or filtering the spam from being displayed on the client level is just a band-aid fix. Relays are still hosting the spam, using server resources.

I can’t see the reply guy either, but I’m using two small relays and Nostur rather than Primal for the moment

I don't have the cash to pay for a paid relay, but I don't know which relays are smaller ones for me to switch over to. The spam is reduced now that I've filled up my block list but it's not perfect. I've seen a few get through still.

Nice to see you in global everyday 👏 I generally follow people back, but I'm not building my own little nostr world where I only hear and see what I want to. Is there no way to see what every member of nostr has to say? That would be awesome.

You can visit https://nostr.watch to find relays. Though, this website doesn't mention their capacity or popularity.

Hi 👀 There is no true global feedback as it's only a feed of all of the relays that you're using.

It's an attack that results in a lesson. All spammers and attackers over the last two years have not been malicious. They've only shown where improvements can happen. I've welcomed all of it. Devs don't generally work to fix these issues until they become an issue.

That just seems so complicated. So I need thousands of feeds? Gen pop will never adopt nostr in my uneducated opinion. Needs to be simplified. Not knocking you bro.

I see it as a lesson that generative AI is absolutely destroying the free web. This is similar to an attack that happened on Session and, as I've heard, on Matrix lately as well. On Session, some script kiddy ran AI to spin up a botnet of user IDs, DDoSing all the open groups with random text, and even adverts for illegal groups, thus causing the entire network -- which is similarly relay-driven like Nostr and Tor -- to completely slow to a crawl. It took a while, but group admins finally got it under control. I'm not sure how, moderation tools are almost non-existent on Session. It made things miserable for a while and a lot of people jumped ship to other apps/other communications methods. One thing is for certain, if there are new people hopping on board Nostr right now, this is definitely not the best first look at what this protocol can do. I hope that those new people will stick with it and not let this discourage them.

Thanks for the list. I will definitely bookmark that and take a look later!

Yes. It always gets better. Bring it on, I say.

You're not wrong. I think a solution is that we adapt, we self-host, we connect, we use PoW. As for new users, they'll come when we're all hard enough to guide them properly. For example, onboarding still does not make it clear to people that their IP is exposed, and how to prevent that. Early.

You don't need to connect to thousands of relays because of the outbox model. You yourself will only need to connect to 1-3 good search relays. Gen pop (whatever that is) will adopt it. The technicalities will disappear into the app interface.

General population 🚬🤣

True, and I think a lot of people need to remember that. This protocol is still comparatively younger than even Mastodon, so there are bound to be issues that need to be worked out before a wider audience will adopt the technology. I also think that AI bros need to stop adopting AI without any sort of caution or responsible thought. The sci-fi analogies might be a little far-fetched for now, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a very clear danger to the web, and to society as a whole, if we become overly reliant on AI... And sadly, we are on our way already.