COLDCARD is self funded

Amen

Yes

coldcard is not FOSS

I see a lot of people say "We need ___" without providing any tangible opportunity for people without connections to able to assist in providing it.

Ready when you are.

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How do you go from normie with no coding skill to FOSS designer?

Hate me if you want, but I really think that issuing tokens could fix this. It's not about replacing money / bitcoin, but if every project issued some tokens and said hey this is equity in this project, people would show up, buy this stuff and start creating value. Am I wrong?

Bitcoin Maxis only. It's like the Scientologists.

This would explain a lot.

Very true king.

Start contributing to projects and make OpenSats application.

can these designers write code?

That brings a mentality which leads to endless chitcoin scams and every pump and dumper that currently infests the crypto world, and the same problem persists, how could these tokens have any actual value? Some grants from groups like OpenSats would help, direct contributions from individuals would help too, we've just got to adjust the way we think about paying for services we want.

IMO, if it can be done as a security AND be tradeable over Liquid, then its a great idea. I just am not sure its legal or why it doesn't appear to be happening

Yes. What's the path from zero to one?

• Start contributing to projects: ✅ I didn’t know opensats accepted designer applications so thank you.

the mockups zaps fed a family in #Ruiru #Kenya ser. forever thankful . #ditto

For best results they probably should be able to at least learn how to use github issues. commit docs. etc...

This reminds me of how powerful GIMP is as a software, while at the same time, many of its menus are confusing and hard to use for a beginner. Gathering user feedback should be priority 1 in improving the UI workflow of users. For a composing app - gather feedback from composers. For an art app - gather feedback from artists, and so on. 1. Feedback 2. Improve user workflow efficiency 3. Appealing design The feedback process could start long before designers are funded.

Afaik only Spiral does this

OpenSats does some, needs to do more.

Appsofuckinglutely

I 100% agree with the sentiment of funding FOSS designers and developers, but the culture also needs to change a bit. I’m under the belief that if a piece of software is hard to use than it needs to be, it just sucks. I’ll be blunt, from what I’ve seen as a dev, many FOSS devs are too focused on writing code in their own little world than evaluating how useful their software actually is. This is fine, but they shouldn’t expect people to be able to use it or become surprised when people suggest UI changes.

See GIMP vs Krita for example. GIMP’s (image editor) UI has one word to describe it. Awful. It doesn’t look like it was designed for humans. Krita, while being designed as drawing program is still more usable than GIMP despite having slightly less features with image editing. It’s easier to learn and easy to figure out quite a bit on your own. I don’t think you should have to read a manual to preform basic tasks in a GUI program like you do with gimp.

On the other hand, I think we do expect way too much from FOSS devs sometimes. They are almost always doing this work FOR FREE and rarely get any donations, so it’s frustrating when people are constantly demanding new features.

Make friends with a FOSS dev working on a project you want to contribute

Heyy, whatcha working on these days?

Roberto was rejected and he is arguably one of the biggest nostr designers

who is roberyo

My talk at #nostrAsia was around this topic. We need more designers. Thanks for bringing this up @DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 📱

Yes. You are wrong.

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I'd be happy to do FOSS testing, depending on my area of expertise of software use. I would not mind at all.

I am a software engineer with 20+ years of experience and I am looking to contribute to freedom tech. This is could be anything related to Bitcoin, Nostr, or similar. Most of my work has been for embedded systems, so a lot of C and even some Verilog on everything from bare metal to Embedded Linux. Over the past 2 years, I have been writing PC applications in C# and Matlab and I have experience with Java, Lua, Ruby, and C++, so I'm comfortable with higher level languages. I'd be happy to learn Rust, Go, or anything else that will make me useful. If anyone has any thoughts, big or small, technical or personal, as I start this journey, feel free to respond.

Link?

Are you not entertained? I think 🤔 my wit is me 🤣👽🫡🫂🫒

Agreed. Where do I apply?

+1000% 🙏🔥

contribute to or start an open source project

Working on getting to that level of competency!

Designers, what are some of your favorite FOSS projects? I use Inkscape almost daily.

Good take, here are some sats

We also need to fund people who are willing to take Nostr to market. Design and dev is not enough. You need content creators, event managers, the whole thing. Check out what @Jason Hodlers 🪢 is doing with the 21Q book. Check out what @Tanja is doing with the Nostr Booth initiative. Just because things look pretty, doesn’t mean people will come.

Thanks, don't know if it the grand also applies to UX designers.

wth? he was rejected? he has done so much for nostr, and works his ass off.

Take a look at nostr.net for some existing projects. There aren't many C/C++ projects yet, but were betting there will be I sort of have an embedded background in old automotive processors, mostly binary editing and disassembly, but I have a long list of projects you may be interested in I mostly write C, C++ and C# libraries (over 500k lines of code in my repos)

GitHub

VnUgE - Overview

Building software I shouldn't be. Low-level and server engineer - VnUgE

- C low-level cryptograhpy library

GitHub

GitHub - VnUgE/noscrypt: A nostr specific cryptography library written in C

A nostr specific cryptography library written in C - VnUgE/noscrypt

- C++ nostr sdk

GitHub

GitHub - ShadowySupercode/aedile-ndk: C++ System Development Kit for Nostr

C++ System Development Kit for Nostr. Contribute to ShadowySupercode/aedile-ndk development by creating an account on GitHub.

- C# low level utility libraries (for server app development) -

GitHub

GitHub - VnUgE/VNLib.Core: High performance server application utility libraries

High performance server application utility libraries - VnUgE/VNLib.Core

- C# full stack server + browser extension for nostr nip07 -

GitHub

GitHub - VnUgE/NVault: A self-hosted, multi-user, nostr credential vault, with cross-browser NIP-07 extension

A self-hosted, multi-user, nostr credential vault, with cross-browser NIP-07 extension - VnUgE/NVault

if you visit https://www.vaughnnugent.com it is served to you using my http framework and web server software :)

Yes, but aside from funding, I think there's the issue of designers who are new to FOSS and don't necessarily know how to step up and step in to even contribute for free. Coders know git, hub/tea, know their way around the environment, submitting proposals, issues, committing PRs, etc. "how do I come in and help? how do I use these things? Should I use these things? do i just hit up one of the devs and send them a .jpg on #nostr?" These are the questions, at least for me as a designer and not as a coder, that go through my mind (and perhaps it's an introversion thing as well tbh), when someone wants designers for their FOSS project, or if a designer wants to help a #FOSS project. A reply with "submit a PR" or "submit an issue" might make sense to a coder, but it's a blocking statement for someone else. They're lost on what exactly is the next step from that statement and don't have a clear picture of what to do. That's why, I think, there should be a guide post (written or video) that should be shared always when attempting to lure in designers, explaining how designers (with and/or without basic coding skills) can contribute to a FOSS project. You'd write that yourself or find guides and share it (and even if you write or find a guide that outlines the steps, it might not even be detailed, well explained, or detailed enough, well encompassing, to have designers understand what to do and have them take action. From the POV of a designer, from that side of me at least, I'm completely lost. Perhaps I can work on that type of guide in the future, in written and in video form (and If I'm feeling ambitious about it, in a site form), like a really detailed, complete, and hand-holding one, and have it up online so that FOSS projects can link to it, on their project and whenever they post online or replying to someone asking how they can contribute (instead of "submit a PR". It'd be better if a post or reply is "submit a PR. And if you don't know what that means or how you can help, check out this useful guide for designers"). Finding designers isn't the issue, IMO, communicating with them and guiding them is. Hopefully, a couple of coders and designers, who are more experienced in FOSS, can produce this (or maybe it is already out there, I'm not sure), where after some time has passed and there isn't one yet, and I can make it, then sure I'd make it (I'd hit up a bunch of coders for notes, thoughts, reviewers, feedback, etc). View quoted note →

Thanks, Chip. I'll take a look.

That is my plan. While I have done a ton of Linux driver-level in the embedded space for my career, it has always been for corporate stuff. I have never just jumped on a project as a community contributor. It's definitely something I have always wanted to do.

Unpopular opinion : Devs should also be Designers. People should be trained in both Art + Engineering. We have a crisis of specialization.

With help of ai this is now plausible 😬

Everyone can learn a theory of art but not all can become an artist. I think you need to have it in you to create good design. If that wasn't the case, then everything we make would be just perfect.