To say this is to break my thesis that money is thermodynamics and it is not possible to break the laws of thermodynamics. There will always be humans who work and humans who do not work. If those who do not work are going to receive a universal income, they will be anything but free, and if those who work have to support them, which is obvious because money is a form of accounting for energy and energy cannot be created out of thin air, then those who work will not be free either. You can turn it around as much as you want, but this is called communism. View quoted note →

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"Universal high income" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well he always was a leftist and all the others that were made rich to influence power and make people hate capitalism. These fake success examples of free market were installed to undemine freedom itself. Let get back to real capitalism where my ability is important to some other folks and they give me money I can spend on stuff I need and like.

Bingo!

What is universal high income?

It is a world where there is no scarcity and everyone can eat Iranian caviar and oysters every day.

The problem is not the amount of money, the problem is the amount of goods and services. No matter how much money you print and give away, there will be the same amount of Iranian caviar for everyone, and you will continue to be unable to taste Iranian caviar. For Elon's communist world to work, he shouldn't worry about whether people work or not, or whether they receive an income or not, he should focus on creating infinite goods and services. In short, it's a clear example of him taking people for idiots. View quoted note →

Is what you get for staying in your pod to pay for your digital goods and services until all the pesky peasants are phased out. Meanwhile the people like him has all the world for their enjoyement and a robotic slaveforce to serve them.

A person's stance on musk has always been one of my tests on how informed they are as a bitcoiner because for some reason most are blind to him being a useful idiot for the military industrial complex. The latest test is ofcourse a person's stance on core. Anyway, always a good opportunity to inject this @Lyn Alden savagery:

Elon practicing universal high income.

I found this to be true and yet 220 milion follow him . To reduce his influenced is to unfollow him but no one does . If he gets only 20 milion follower than his influenced only as much as 20 mill.

I found that rather amusing to see the aorld where everyone rich

I want my universal income to buy more Bitcoin 😁

Ai ceo’s… “there will be no more jobs in the future” Pleb… “how about you, will you have a job” Ceo… “of course, I do important things” Pleb… “so jobs for you scumbags but not for us. Go fuck yourself.”

Judge by his actions. There is a chance he has understood the jeff booth version of bitcoins future, the coming productivity explosion, abundance all around after we cross this valley. I have not seen him take any actions that would put bitcoin or related technology in jeopardy, including nostr. From a distance it looks like he cracks open doors far before we need the enter. He clearly bought twitter to manipulate narratives. Look at the most recent, automatically revealing people's account location. He gets to have plausible deniability at the same time bad actors worldwide. His products on the other hand are very centralizing, star link tesla and now always online humanoid robots. Maybe these are a result of how to be profitable in the fiat system? He clearly has long term goals, most publicly stated but generally i believe he hides behind the truth. I would say %46 - %48 good, based solely on his subtle conveniently timed overton actions. He would prefer this estimate to be a safe %50. Good being anything contributing to the long term robustness of our species, more decentralization, property rights, freedom of information flows. You're right! He is definitely not a nikola tesla.

Productivity gains returning to the consumer? No reason to save fiat moneys?

This a fiat incentive problem, and I believe Bitcoin fixes this. I think most Elon hate is because he’s the best at working the current system and has enviously amassed astronomical wealth. Yes, he has bad ideas, most entrepreneurs do. But, he is tenacious AF and figured out how to attract investment. Acquiring government money is a skill he’s obviously mastered. That said, electric cars were a joke before Tesla, which he has led to great success. Rockets were ridiculously expensive and one time use, now they are launching 3 rockets a week. Reaching orbit is more affordable than ever . Ever watched a space nerd interview him? Dude knows his shit. He’s definitely not a fake. It’s too bad access to the money printer is a requirement to succeed in car, space, and other large scale markets. Imagine if providing value was the best way to succeed, and advancing society was the primary goal. Instead of them being eclipsed by political posturing and showmanship. What a waste of time for everyone.

Please sign me up! Even it means getting my iris scanned by the orb and handing over my fingerprints. That’s utopian living right there

His wealth or even how he amassed it are not what bothers me because that's indeed part of the fiat incentives. What bothers me is that he's a covert villain and a psyop puppet whose words have not once reflected his actions, while the world praises him as a genius and a hero. It's mind-boggling.

I think he’s referring to affordable automation for… most everything

Lyn is brutal 😬

Elon is excellent at creating narratives and muddying the waters, and that’s about it. Elon: - LARPs as an outsider who is rebelling against the system, and at the same time has the most government contracts; - lumps bitcoin together with Ethereum and Doge, and still manages to make Bitcoiners to think he is “one of us”; - pretends to be worried about population decline in Western countries, and then creates an AI girlfriend to make the situation worse; - knows exactly why people on planet earth are struggling economically, and instead of talking about the reason (money printing), he makes the dream about living in Mars; - publishes pictures of himself with dogs to make people think he is a good guy, and at the same time his company tortures animals in order to develop dystopian tech that he and his masters plan to use to enslave people. Etc. etc. Summary: Not a good guy.

How do you perceive autonomous android robotics affecting the world? Whether from Musk or not

He's a globalist scum like the rest of them.

He’s right. The caveat is that unless we can control the supply of our own abundance then the supply of said abundance will be conditional. It won’t appear overnight. It will just become easier and easier overtime and before you know it you’re completely reliant on the system. We’re already at a point in Australia where a large percentage of the population either directly or indirectly are reliant on government spending to make ends meet. It will be extremely easy for them to clamp down on us with said conditional abundance.

It’s like he has zero knowledge of economics.

we should rival him by producing more cool shit than he does

It doesn't make sense especially from the richest guy in the world by fake money

Just ignorance IMO It's not a surprise as he doesn't understand bitcoin after many years of being aware of it

His wealth comes from investors and investors wealth come from other investors and then the chain ends with non existent money, that's why none of those billionaires could sell their stocks because if it does, that whole chain breaks and becomes thin air.

You don't get to be the richest man if you're not close to the money printer. It's really that simple

“Universal high income” Eliminating comparison: With no one receiving less than anyone else, no one has a high income.

he's trying a little too hard to convince the proles. also if he really believes that the pay package is pretty curious

There may or may not be universal basic income. But I’ll still save in bitcoin thanks 👍🏻

Lyn gives him too much credit. He’s not a genius’s marketer memer, but rather just a state agent pretending not to be one. A tool. I’m willing to bet none of these failed ventures were even his idea. He is just the vessel for the propaganda the agencies want to put out, not an active player with a mind of his own. Which says a lot about his followers.