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Wrong conclusion. Will has been consistent in criticizing things that weaken his chance to get a grant, such as honest criticisms over cashu fad. Its very precarious keeping these grants, much of it involves staying in favor with the clique, which it really shouldnt. Look at nvks threat.
IF Will compromised his integrity he would still have a grant. THATS the problem. OS should have no bearing on direction of bitcoin only nostr. Just fund well used projects that people use. Fixes are possible, Will is very much not alone in his concerns over OS.
“You have no real monetary incentive to build freedom tech” is fucking WILD. I was here building freedom tech when there was nobody else. Just me and like 5 other people. Are you fucking kidding me. I am not doing this for grants, i’m doing this so i can have a place to speak freely and not have someone ruling over me.
Sorry to hijack this, but I don’t think it’s 5 people. It’s a movement with a long history, which started before you were around. Unless you were involved in early cryptowars. In that case, I apologize.
At the time i was posting every day my main contact I talked to was an IoT dishwasher. There were maybe like 10-20 active people at the time. Yes i know people were working on it years before :/ but there wasn’t even any mobile apps, i had to make the first one. and yes i was not chasing grant funding, there was no interest to fund this
I was talking about the whole cypherpunks movement. PGP, Tor, and all that stuff. In general, I’m kind of sad about the current debate here. I wish you’d go sort it out. We are not a big community and don’t have enough people to fight with each other.
I quickly got pushed out of that clique too after i started to talk negatively about cashu. Good riddance. It’s some sort of weird odell/jack worship cult where if you never say anything bad against the core clique you will be showered in riches and influence and lavish events. I feel like they only brought me into the fold temporarily because jack liked damus for a short period of time.
Its all about money though, its gross and im happy to be out
Calle didnt give one crap about nostr until Jack got involved and there was money to chase. True story. He "worked" for lnbits at the time and I tried many a time to get him working on nostr things. These people are sycophants. It is gross. I feel sorry for Jack, folks like nvk/calle are so very charming to people they can grift.
Thanks for chiming in. Is maybe the lack of mature constructive criticism that could be at the root that may be more productive than whatever Will's honest criticism has been? Sometimes the delivery method matters? I am probing. I have no idea what the ins and outs of the true dynamics behind the scenes are. Happy to get a glimpse though and generally have felt the "exclusivity" stinge. But also seems that OS funding other foundations type orgs could be helping to solve that centralized clique issue? Which is what I have paid attention to as that's been in consideration for how I might contribute in exchange of grants if I were to stay in this space.
yup, a lot of dick sucking and grant chasing. I only knew of calle via an HRF bitcoin bounty, so makes sense.
nvk would also try to swarm jack every time to gain influence. It was so obvious. lots of grifters.
The bitchat android thing makes a lot more sense now as well, do whatever you can to suck up to jack is probably a good get rich and influential strategy.
Oh no, please go ahead and hijack all you want.
There just needs to be more transparency in OS applications, some sort of appeal process, better comms with applicants, no conflicting interests for board members. It being a blackbox is ripe for corruption, or speculation of corruption. Believe it or not i would like OS to endure, but reform is needed, evident by people getting concerned.
Its something of an outpouring because when receiving a grant its hard to criticize, especially if your project really needs the resources.
Yerp
On a lighter note I once approached you Will at Bitcoin Prague to say hi and how I was enjoying Damus as a pleb, then some intelligent assed dude stepped in just before and started a deep conversation. I retreated to the bar and my place in the natural order of things 😂
ah crap, sorry about that :(
No worries, was funny
Dude that sucks royally. That's just wrong on all levels. Just saying.
What’s the problem with cashu?
I saw that in a TV show once, but it prevented an assassination. 🤔
Lots. Going into will make this thread never end. Those creating hysteria have always been well aware of its limitations. Fun compsci, doesnt justify the vast amounts poured into it.
This doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy
Some people are donating *their own money* to freedom tech in a way that you think is non-optimal
So what?
Will and a small handful of other devs actually predate the grants. The grants came here because they were here, not the other way around.
Also, what you wrote was so creepy that it made my skin crawl.
hahaha you're also describing me if i were in any of these events
😂 🤝
Then someone should write it up. The only thing I can think of is the need for a mint, but that’s the original ecash design, right? Bitcoin was a revolution because all designs required a trusted mint before.
On the same but heavier for me note I am irritated with you
@jb55 because you and your baby mama literally cockblocked me from meeting Jack right when I was on my way to introduce myself at the end of that conference. So GFY. 😃
Your statement is made up of pure idiocy and ignorance. Why are so many of you #primal users conditioned like this🤨😏?
Someone saw an opportunity and developed the android version immediately. If I knew how to code I'd do that too. Jack builds iOS I use android. Calle filled a need. What's the mystery? 🤷🏻♀️
What is wrong with Bitchat? Why don't you like it?
Cheers 🍻
FREEDOM TECH LMAO
Nothing, its a good idea.
thought you are lesbian.. oh its money involved so you hetero now... mental illness is real. go and bark on x 🏳️🌈
I miss Australia
The same money that taints Primal and Wavlake and the such… same old story, toxic fucks want front row seat in case the spaceship takes off.
of course
Yeah it did Lol 😆
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is the same money that is against BIP110
(I’m back on Nostr just for the drama tbh, saw your post about the phone call on r/bitcoinismoney on Reddit)
lol nice the drama is escaping. amazing
Reddit post was linking to posts on X… it’s escaping alright
they're fucking losers, that's the problem with bitchat
Are you saying Damus didn't want that?
Whose project was Bitchat?
what the fuck does that mean? it's a protocol
What?
Okay gotcha. My bad.
Lovely. I am so glad it hit a nerve. I am only assuming your comment is directed toward me because it's hard to tell inside the funded @Amethyst app and is entirely missing by the funded @primal app.
And maybe Will should have denied the grants and stuck to his principles then maybe.
Ewww. Gross words from a gross soulless human.
I was very supportive of cashu, shilling you and cashu to McCormack, paying for you to work on cashu, then you completely stopped working on lnbits, even though you were being paid, and knowing how limited our funds were.
I told you multiple times to go work on cashu once you received a grant, wishing you all the best, but you wouldn't leave, just strung me along to get funds.
You were paid more than anyone, yet exploited the funds and good will.
There's only one
@jack ❤️ Impossible to clone.
Yes absolutely. I love money and money loves me. Sound money that is. My sugar daddy has got to be fuckable in all the ways which is why I am fiat poor at the moment. Hope that answers your question.
Could you expand on the "worked"?
jack does not give a fuck about you fool. stop craving for his attention.. you are like those whores on x thinking musk will see them 🤣 #grownostr
jack its a trap the woman wants to milk you 🥴😋😂 and your wallet
@Diyana you are a fuckin joke a bad joke #introductions #stopthebullying
Tell us more.
You’re a sweetheart. Get me every time lol.
you are simply broke bro
"fiat poor" 🤣 use your 0.0001 bitcoin
anyways im glad you interacted
maybe you are not that "fuckable" thats why no one wants to finance your miserable life 🙄
Classic calle, shows his true self then deletes the post.
During his time at lnbits I was very supportive of cashu, we invested a bunch of resources into it, and paid calle for a good time to work on it, i got him on "what bitcoin did" to shill cashu. He then started to take advantage, knowing how limited our funds were he stopped working on lnbits entirely. I encouraged him to leave and work on cashu once he had a grant but he chose to string me along to get paid. Nutstash was chopped up lnbits, commit history deleted - actually a breach in MIT licensing. Not a nice fella. Too busy to care for filth he spouts and deletes.
Reposting this to preserve it :)
"money loves me" - homeless crazy woman #asknostr
well if we are comparing npubs mr
@calle 💯 you stfu
mine is older than yours
You are probably right lovely. I hope you are thoroughly satisfied. Be well!
😉
Woman, you need help. And not just financially. Sorry, for being so blunt. Take a break from social media👍.
damn, the master slaying his padawan.
i HATE CASHU NOW
how flattering you are concerned. That warms my heart so much. There may be one caring soul on Nostr. Imagine that.
Is this a bad time to bring up switching to the bits denomination?
😂
I mean cashu is whatever, not my cup of tea, but interesting work being done there. The op was incentives, being at all critical of cashu made you a pariah, which is a shame, partly because it broke the narrative that captured a disproportionate amount if resources.
Awe man, thanks for the massive zap @proofofprice.com 99x7yxtz224m76npf0us4eqnvy0dm00gh2rdj3cs77ck8q 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Calle deleted the post before mine. I was not calling Diyana a gross human 🙄
No worries, I know! 🙏🏽 Are you sure he deleted it cos I can still see it 🤔🫂😅
Yeah, some clients honor the delete nip, others do not. Deleted or not, the language is gross
So, this is your admission that you DO have some kind of mental illness? It sure sounds like it.
If I genuinely believed you were a caring soul, then yes, that might actually be evidence of a mental illness. 😂 What a sweetheart.
What?
Wow... 👀
I could tell you were talking about calle even though the post was gone 😂
Oh no. I am so sorry you got confused. My condolences to your sarcasm detector.
Have a good day, sir. I hope not to cross paths with you again. Be well.
"my npub is older than yours" 🤣
@Diyana there is no money for you wtf are you doing 🤣 #asknostr
again, no funding for your lesbian craziness
gtfo crazy cunt
and no you can't suck jack off
or maybe jack doesn't like women? 🤔 that's another discussion.. not yet
I'm hoping we don't cross paths again either. Although... interacting with you has been amusing, to say the least. Iirc, you mentioned some time ago that you live in California; there are plenty of self-help groups out there. Try going to one.
Yup
If the license breach is real (I don't know much about the MIT license) then that should be persued
this one also seems to be deleted. I cant see it anymore.
yeah he deleted it. maybe his donors told him to
That’s because only I’m allowed to have a crush on
@jack !
Ohh I see, I just found this whole thread intriguing 👀.
Nah I know, is rather unkind 🫂🙏🏽 sometimes the heat of the moment can make us say things we don’t necessarily mean 🫂🙏🏽 always instant regret for me, though I’m not pretending to know anything of what’s happening here 🫂
actually the most important comment in the whole thread
How about you be the principled one and show us all how it's done? You could be a real role model.
Just work for free, for years.
Yeah, I don't think so. I've done that way too many times in my life and it's been a hard lesson to learn. But if I was given 700 000 sats I imagine I'd be super grateful to have the space and time and opportunity to build my passion project. And of course I'd probably evaluate I may be questioning my own values and patterns if I did find myself in a repeated situation where I compromised my integrity and let myself be censored for the comfort and security the funding provided. I am not Will I don't know the whole story is but this is a public dialogue he started so I think we are allowed to ask questions and express our observations as long time observers of the field. 🤷🏻♀️😀
Wow
Well, see what services you can offer Jack, that he might think are worth 700k sats.
