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ThinkPad, 24 core i9, 64gb ram, Nvidia 3090
It's like 11lbs brick
I've had many computers over the years and none have ever had a cpu die or ram die. Very suspicious.
I'll never buy a laptop ever again. They are underpowered and you can upgrade them. If I go away or travel I'll just bring my cellphone. Laptops are too bulky and can break easily.
I like my desktop I don't see the need to buy a super duper powerful one. For gaming I just buy 10 to 5 year old games. New games are too expensive. I don't want to pay 80 USD for a game.
Frame.work are great.
I wouldn't go for crazy power on a laptop and would go for a desktop/server that can handle the LLM stuff locally. Frame.work do a desktop for that too.
Damn. That's one hell of a beast 🤣
I'm going to replace my set up with a Framework 16 here soon.
I haven't bought a pre built desktop since 1996 👀 I think I want a laptop now so that I can take it with me instead of my garbage old laptop.
I know
@Shawn bought a frame.work laptop almost a year ago.
I've never had parts go bad either. First time for everything I guess.
i use dell and hp mobile workstations for work. i have tried a few lenovos ... i think my next one will be a system76 or a framework
You could use a external GPU if you arnet gaming on the go
Love my Framework 13. Have had for over a year now, no issues.
* the hp notebooks have awesome benchmarks and good keyboards but poor hinges and coil whine like power supplies from the 90s
Yeah, I don't want something that's going to be shit. My Dell Latitude notebook for work is great.
You're not going to get the same bang for your buck with a laptop.
But if all you do is edit text files and send emails, a laptop is fine.
I've been using Thinkpad T/P series with linux for many years. The next one will be a framework, since it feels like the build quality of the ThinkPads has gone downhill a lot in recent years.
maybe just buy the same latitude for personal use
Lenovo P1 gen 7, i9 ,64gb ddr5, Nvidia ada 3000. Also comes with newer camm2 memory. Only about 4 pounds
i like desktops, but if laptop then schenker or xmg preferably
Yes. Quite happy with it. Nothing matches Apple hardware IMO, but the tradeoffs have been worth it.
I game on a laptop hooked up to my tv. currently playing Monster Hunter Wilds. It comes with me in long trips.
It's a Lenovo Legion with a Ryzen processor ("not Intel, those are garbage" says husband)
I've been pretty happy with it. let me know if you wanna know more.
Old Thinkpad T480, the last great laptop ever created.
What trade-offs?
I have never owned an Apple computer, so my trade-offs are none, but I'm curious on your thoughts.
Right now I'm struggling with using built-in graphics or an Nvidia card. I probably won't do much gaming any longer. I decided my free time is better spent building and am very happy with that decision. I am wondering about local LLMs though. I'll need a nice GPU for that.
Thoughts on the build quality?
I have thought of this 😁 I may want a better GPU though.
I would also like an oled display
Alright, I know a thing or two about this, but not that.
I'd recommend just building a new machine and NOT PUTTING THE MALWARE CALLED WINDOWS ON IT.
Instead, use PikaOS, Nobara Project or CachyOS, which are great desktop Linux distros for gaming. I use CachyOS as my daily driver, and apart from some minor nitpicks, I've really had no problem with Cachy.
Oh man, i've been down the rabbit hole on a related subject the past two weeks.
I'm gonna recommend you filter your choices based on what you can easily run coreboot on, preferably the boards that Skulls supports.
Take 10 minutes youtubing Intel Management Engine and you might agree with my choice of "first filter", if you dont already know about IME.
Lmk if I can help in any way should you jump down this rabbit hole 😁
Versus Apple hardware, it's extremely difficult to match:
1. Size + weight, but this is because Apple gear is all but hermetically sealed.
2. Thermals: nothing I've seen runs as cool under heavy loads as Apple hardware.
3. Acoustics: fan noise is all but non-existent on Apple hardware.
So, by comparison, my Framework AMD Ryzen 7640U runs hot and loud, but only under heavy workloads, like gaming or video editing.
In return, I get complete user serviceability.
By comparison, I have a ThinkPad Carbon X1 Gen 8 (circa 2020) that is lighter, cooler, and quieter than my Framework, but again, it's pretty much welded shut.
If you look at the *new* Frameworks with the Ryzen AI 300 series chip, and you're getting impressive LLM performance with what I understand are better thermals and acoustics.
Really well. It's my daily driver for about ten months now and I am very happy with it.
The keyboard is excellent. I even put away my mechanical keyboard, because it just feels so good.
Battery is also good.
I'm using it with AMD.
But I'm no gamer so I don't know how well it handles that.
The 16 version has an option for an external graphics card I think.
I'm currently running Ubuntu now. I'm an on again/off again Linux user, always returning for gaming, but I don't really game anymore. I'll probably stick with Ubuntu or Pop.
Ubuntu is great. Someone is bound to show up and recommend nixos, but it simply doesn't work for my use case.
I'm curious to try VanillaOS next. Immutable sounds great in theory but I keep bouncing off when things I need just don't work in the ones I tried before.
Ubuntu with Wayland? That doesn't support NVIDIA.
Those three I recommend support NVIDIA way better than Canonical or RedHat can.
😮
I'm currently using a old thinkpad, which is great for work and light entertainment but not for gaming.
it's strange that you have so many defective parts. i've had a gaming desktop pc for almost 10 years and my family still uses it, yet this pc suffered from the house voltage variations with shutdowns before i bought an UPS. Lucky i've never had to change a single part on it.
For the parts i always go with:
Asus for the motherboard and asus/nvidia graphic card
Intel for the CPU
Crucial MX or Samsung for the SSD, Western digital for HDD
G.Skill or HyperX for the ram
Corsair for the power supply ( try to get the models with Japan components in it )
Maybe there is new or better brands now, but this is what's works for me with minimul fail, during the last 20 years.
I can vouch for System76. I've been a customer for over 11 years.
System76 will be my next purchase. Great company, awesome machines, but I'm not a gamer.
I’d recommend a powerhouse of a PC, then you can stream gaming onto even a mediocre laptop with incredible performance.
I was a holdout on streaming my gaming until I got a laptop with a higher refresh rate monitor (at least 120hrtz). Oh I get it now, this is what everyone is talking about!
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