Right now I fucking hate all the dumb & greedy podcasters who miseducated an entire generation of bitcoiners
Then inserted foolish ideology into technical conversations, taught everyone to run in the same rhetoric circles and irrationally hate the technicality savvy.
Bitcoin is not what these guys are teaching.
Just because some dudes speak in a language you can easily understand doesn’t mean that they’re experts and just because something aligns with your ideological biases doesn’t mean that it’s correct.
Fuck all the loud permanoobs like the Bitcoin Mechanic and the Bitcoin university guy. When they spend such a long time being wrong, they get proven wrong, but they still put out content acting like they know better, it’s clear malevolence and self-interest in the name of an agenda we have yet to uncover.
They are the attackers and the spammers of bullshit, not the devs who are trying to make Bitcoin more useful for builders.
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I am a great listener. I have listened to plenty of POV on both sides. I know what my take away is. I guess I am one if the dumb permanoobs. Oh well. Can't all be so smart.
Bitcoin maximalism, and calling every legitimate, serious crypto project a shitcoin is not helping the Bitcoin community at all.
If Satoshi Nakamoto was still alive:
- Bitcoin would already be anonymous, he always wanted it to be fully encrypted but the tech was not ready. Guess what we have now at least two projects that do this ZCash and Monero.
- Bitcoin would be p2p cash, not digital gold. Stablecoins are the closest to this reality, and so are many other crypto currencies like BCH and Litecoin.
Bitcoin must become a community of innovators, not just the largest sheep ranch in Crypto Valley.
Division is the attack, use Bitcoin maximally, fill the blocks and unify all Bitcoiners.
Vlad, Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
Right now I fucking hate all the dumb & greedy podcasters who miseducated an entire generation of bitcoiners
Then inserted foolish ideology into technical conversations, taught everyone to run in the same rhetoric circles and irrationally hate the technicality savvy.
Bitcoin is not what these guys are teaching.
Just because some dudes speak in a language you can easily understand doesn’t mean that they’re experts and just because something aligns with your ideological biases doesn’t mean that it’s correct.
Fuck all the loud permanoobs like the Bitcoin Mechanic and the Bitcoin university guy. When they spend such a long time being wrong, they get proven wrong, but they still put out content acting like they know better, it’s clear malevolence and self-interest in the name of an agenda we have yet to uncover.
They are the attackers and the spammers of bullshit, not the devs who are trying to make Bitcoin more useful for builders.
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Satoshi literally said he’s moving on to other things, think about that. And now we have Kaspa… a true P2P POW. Stable coins are not the closest thing.
Would love to get your take on Kaspa.
Stablecoins are still very useful, they have a place in the crypto ecosystem.
I’m not disagreeing at all. But why not put them on a POW that’s fair launched, has a hard cap, and can scale, rather than POS?
Wrong
Stablecoins+POW makes exactly as much sense as x/0
you forgot to say that war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.
What, pray, are they greedy for? I fail to see how their stance is helping them rake in the sweet sats
Nice profile pic. Do you listen to TOOL?
I will say Bitcoin University plays on ones worst mind. Listening to it day in and day out is not recommended.
Context is 🔑
Perhaps you could explain to me how knots node runners can simultaneously accomplish nothing and somehow also prevent our intellectual superiors from building on bitcoin.
I guess you don’t know what Kaspa is, do you?
Screenshot this. You’ll want it to remind yourself to be humble.
You are pro CSAM. Terrible take.
Where is your github profile?
Can you explain what you mean by "foolish ideology"?
What are they wrong about?? What podcasters are you talking about? Names??
They’re not preventing anyone from doing anything. But they get dangerously close to causing a chain split.
fools
💯
pretty simple isnt it...
If they validate and relay the same blocks as core nodes, how do they cause a chain split? Besidea, chain splits happen naturally, and don't last many blocks.
interesting that "permanoobs" are far more adept at adversarial thinking than you will ever be.
Wait,
@Vlad, Bitcoin Takeover Podcast, you think k it's is going to lead to a permanent, deliberatw altcoin chain? Who is advocating for that?
Podcasters can shape narratives, but devs shape reality. The mempool doesn’t care about ideology, only valid signatures.
Real talk!
Not sure you know what these words mean.
Look it up
I’m with you on this
thats okay... you take care.
Can you elaborate on why you feel these guys are wrong?
muting the idiot
I don’t feel anything. I know.
@Vlad, Bitcoin Takeover Podcast, would you please tell me what knots has to do with an alternative chain split? You're, I guess, a journalist? Have you gather'ed any evidence to support this concern?
Yes, look into the 2013 accidental chain split. It came from an otherwise uninteresting Berkeley DB upgrade. I think it was Luke who noticed it and reported on the IRC dev chat.
So you are concerned that there is code in knots that can cause a chain split? Can you point to the code that raises these concerns?
Vlad is just a shitcoiner in his soul and troll.
Technically savvy people are Luke, Mechanic and Matt as well.
Trolls propaganda is exposed.
I’m glad you asked. This is the first giveaway: the Knots repo is 1923 commits behind Core.
You can argue it’s not essential and that older versions of Core are compatible and in consensus. Which is correct.
But it’s the 1757 commits that are ahead of Core that are concerning. Who do you think has enough time and energy to review them all? Bitcoin Core is already difficult to review and takes months to consider every update.
Knots has 1 guy who lost 200 BTC, a bunch of unreliable volunteers and an army of cheerleaders who are in a position of absolute trust.
As more divergent code gets added under what looks like the benevolent dictatorship of one guy, it will get much worse. It only takes one bad mistake to cause a split. And Ocean will be the only pool mining the new chain. Good luck with that!
GitHub
GitHub - bitcoinknots/bitcoin: Bitcoin Knots enhanced Bitcoin node/wallet software
Bitcoin Knots enhanced Bitcoin node/wallet software - bitcoinknots/bitcoin
lol just sell your coins and cry somewhere else
another troll comment
From my experience of working across multiple branches, these divergences in commits have a tendency to be the same code, but merged manually or differently. I have a suspicion that these commit metrics are a faulty heuristic on which to base your fears.
A more reliable tool would be to audit the diffs across the repos to see exactly how divergent they are from each other.
💩Kaspa💩 shitcoin revealed.
I get that the fork is really old, but it isn't really a good look (as Vlad pointed out). I was a bit overwhelmed trying to audit the 37K+ 14K- diff.
It would make me feel better to see only a few commits rebased on Core's release. I suppose I could just cherry pick the important commits myself and maintain my own.
Honestly, as I'm writing this, I might just start running a pruned node and dropping all OP_RETURN data instead 🥲
It’s easy to repost a video. But can you defend his points? Short answer is, he’s lying to you. I’ll refer you to my conversation with
@nicnymVlad didn't point out that it wasn't a good look. Like the bimbo larping as a smart person that he is, he started hyperventilating about how a bad heuristic is reason enough to panic.
Kaspa will continue to lose value against Bitcoin over the long term.
My failed attempt to convince you of that doesn’t change the reality.
Well that’s an opinion isn’t it? Thank you for your opinion. I was looking more for objective discussion regarding the projects.
And you got it. Its presented for you in Matt's video. Enjoy it 🤙
Satosha
#bitcoin community has three types of ideologues
- Decentralisation
- Privacy
- anti - fiat
And then there are few , who just hate everything :-)
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