Spent time with a bunch of good Bitcoiner friends. Most of them don't use nostr. All of them urged to explain why they don't without being asked to do so. An indication of a bad conscience, I guess that's good for nostr but it doesn't really matter. Anyway, what's their reason? They haven't seen nostr used for much more than "just social media".
Obviously, they're retarded and wrong and I love them. But that doesn't matter either. They don't know that the most exciting use cases of nostr are beyond a Twitter clone and it seems that that's what would make them reconsider it, but I don't believe them really. I think they don't care and made up a bunch of nonsense excuses because they feel the social pressure from their Bitcoiner peers.
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Makes you wonder why people use social media in the first place.
Nostr definitely needs better onboarding help, especially in the realm of tying everything together, i.e. use of wallets and the key managers (NWC?) used to tie into multiple nostr apps at once...🤔🧐😳
okay all of this talk about its not just social media
but most of you purple people write texts and post pics like on twitter here
and so for sure it can be used as protocol for other things, but mostly twitterless twitter and therefore “i dont use social media” stands correct
Very late
bitcoiners that don't try nostr failed the first principles thinking test
Maybe some of them are starting to use nostr without realising with NWC or Fountain, and thats Nostr too.
So maybe they will just stick to X because of its wider range of topics and people, but bit by bit they will be using those "other usecases" of Nostr that they think dont exist.
The reason, I believe, is that NOSTR is not fully decentralized and still imperfect, but at the moment it's the best social platform we have in terms of privacy and freedom of expression. We need to use NOSTR to incentivize it and allow the system to scale.
"Exciting use cases?" OK, I'm ready to learn. I'm 65, my husband's 75. Spent nearly 4 years studying BItcoin & still studying. Now you want me to dig deep into Nostr? 😂 I'm going to need help with that!
Nostr, as it stands through the NIPs, is heavily geared towards being a Twitter clone. It doesn’t help that it's driven by a drivechain maxi, which has unfortunately sidelined a lot of potential financial innovation. Cashu is a rare exception that breaks that trend. We could be seeing so much more, but Nostr isn't really set up for it. Your friends have a point, and I’m glad you’re one of the few working to create the change we need. Cashu is one in a thousand, but there should be a thousand projects like it.
Insert why-not-both.gif
Everyone needs a solution to a problem
For the friends you mention, they just haven’t clicked yet
When their X profile is cancelled (again), or IG updates their terms of services to being a pronoun, or the politician they like gets shadow banned, etc etc etc, then maybe they’ll do a u-turn
People rationalized the same way before they”got” bitcoin. Many touch points later they will wander in.
You already mastered the GM and GM, that's mostly it.🤷♀️😆
That is, indeed very retarded.
You forgot the GM.
Daring thesis:
nostr, and by that I mean the SM platform, will only work as long as it remains small and reasonably sophisticated. Once the John Doe consumer joints and the bot armies invade as well, then there also needs to be some form of moderation and unfortunately also censorship?!
Maybe I am wrong and plz feel free to change my mind, but at the moment, we're still a very small network and this also is a big reason why nostr working!?
I didn't have a GM.
Damn it I knew it😳…I’m being spied on😂🤣
Send them this link and tell them it’s nostr
https://program-ai.app
"Obviously, they're retarded and wrong and I love them" this applies to so many people tbh.
Frens Italiani !!! Dove siete ? #Nostr #Italia
did you tell them to HFST Have Fun Staying on Twitter.
I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that bootstrapping network effects is hard.
When someone says Nostr is too small, or they view it only as social media, part of what they are implicitly saying is that its network effect is not sufficiently scaled to be of interest to them, which in a busy person's life is reasonably valid.
So then it depends on the builders to make a product so interesting to them that it breaks through and solves one of their problems in a way they can't ignore.
View quoted note →who is a drive chain maxi?
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“Build it and they will come.”
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Can I ask for a pointer where I could learn about some of the non-twitter-clone use cases of nostr? #asknostr
View quoted note →Asch experiment at its finest. 👍🏻
"Obviously, they're retarded and wrong and I love them." 😅
I'm kind of curious why they have/use Bitcoin. Is it just about getting rich? If they're not there for the freedom, sovereignty and to destroy centralized control, maybe they don't care about those principles in their daily life, speech or access to apps?
Not trying to be judgmental, just interested in where they are coming from.
like you 💜🫂
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lots to learn for sure. You are way ahead of most people your age. Good job.
Thank you. :)
