Whose likes are @primal censoring? 👀
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Are relays just able to censor like that?
I think smaller accounts to avoid gaming of their trending algo
When you read content from Primal, you are not even reading from a Nostr relay. Primal has their own “caching server” that is not the native Nostr protocol at all. The Primal nostr relay is only for outbound publishing. Everything you see on Primal is not the decentralized Nostr protocol at all, but simply what Primal determines you should see.
Primal has a known track record of censoring individuals from their algorithmic feed from their caching server. I suggest you use any client but Primal. The UI is well done and if it were built according to principles of decentralization and freedom it would definitely be my daily driver. But I think trading liberty and the future of Nostr’s decentralization for convenience is a devil’s bargain. Use any client but Primal.
That’s not censorship.. Nostr by nature of its decentralisation, will always have slightly different number of likes and comments depending on which relays you connect to.
As far as I know, @primal caching server does exactly that: caches the data from the relays. It is open source and also you can run your own, as well as connect to different relays, in the Primal settings.
the relays in the primal settings are for writing. the app reads directly from primal's caching server only - not from relays. and their caching server controls which posts to show and in which order. it's curating and filtering on your behalf.
yea the source might be open, but there's no way to know what version they're actually running and with which environment variables and settings wrt content/filtering/censoring/deboosting/shadow-banning, etc
i think they only tally heart emojis. other clients tally other emojis
Yes. It is semantically not different from posting to Mastodon and having your content republished to Nostr via Ditto. Your content is getting on Nostr, but your actual experience is still curated and can be censored by the centralized Mastodon server you publish to. Primal is dishonest to bill themselves as a Nostr client at this point, in my opinion. It is a centralized service that happens to relay content to Nostr, but it is no more Nostr than me printing fiat in a Postgres database and calling it Bitcoin would be Bitcoin.
I think they just don't render custom emoji reacts.
I only now realized this is from 2 years ago. So back then that was absolutely the case.
I stopped using Primal when it used to be KYC and never went back. I like #nostur and #yakihonne 🔥
Which is the other client?
Just messing with you by posting this comment @hodlbod
Why is primal always doing shit like this?
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Primal doing what it's known for.
When I use primal there's always accounts and content missing from the feed.
They censor me even after I paid a million sats for a so called "legend" subscription
They also gaslight me about it publicly
People don't hate Primal enough
Ya ill pass based on that description
Interesting.
Can't you set a different caching server?
Not that I’ve tried it, but there is an option called ‘Switch caching service’ in Network settings
“It’s not network censorship because you can run your own caching server”
yeah literally nobody is going to do that. Everyone is going to stick with the default. It’s ludicrously absurd to even imply otherwise. The defaults of literally every Nostr client include multiple relays and follow relay hints. The default of Primal allows them to actively control speech.
Speech controlled ain’t the same thing as controlling speech for people to fit peters closet expectations where facts and truths are gay.
Emergents though
hahaaaaaaaaaa fuck
Which one would you choose to set it to?
It doesn’t matter which one you choose to set it to. Because that alternative one, unlike *every other Nostr client* will now have control over what you can see. There shouldn’t be an alternative caching server. The solution is to do it the Nostr way, which is read off of multiple relays.
Agreed mate, but solutions are always better than finding problems.
Like we discussed, we run 2 apps on the minimum for now, and if we can give the Primal app a lil boost, why not is the question, as opposed to why do I have to.