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First I’m hearing of this more recent batch of legal troubles
That seems really unjust 😥
Would be a huge loss
Someone doesn’t like the truth
that this site?! this is hugely important!
https://archive.vn/If something can be taken it will be, they should think about how not to be a central point of failure.
They store over 100MM petabytes of data and run on donations and feeding data to corporations like Amazon Alexa. They are the snapshot that you thought you had deleted but are the reality that "everything on the Internet is forever". But if sued out of existence... It's destruction of what was designed to be "the Alexandria Library" of the Internet.
No reason all of this still can't happen without a centralized data store, I've been following archive.org for a long time, I'm not sure how it can continue to function. Maybe AI companies should use it's data and make a case for it.
Nintendo also went after them, don't think it can go on in this structure under the present legal regime
They feed Alexa... So Amazon is a big contributor.
Crazy! I happened to try using their service today, and it wasn't working. I had no idea this was going on.
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Copyright is a fiat scam. You can’t own information unless you keep it secret.
A lot of information that is not beneficial to the current mainstream narrative and political agenda gets scrubbed from the Internet all the time. In other words, news articles, blog posts and whole web sites get memoryholed.
Internet Archive and its Wayback Machine have preserved the deleted information, “the Internet never forgets” comes from that for a big part.
If they are shut down, the censors (the global cabal that controls the media and politics) will have a field day and most people would have absolutely no means of proving that a piece of information had existed. This is a path towards total information control.
Can't this problem, that content gets deleted later, at least partly be solved by people making local copies of URLs they deem important and then issuing hashes of the content to
OpenTimestamps: a timestamping proof standard
OpenTimestamps aims to be a standard format for blockchain timestamping.
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Facts.
The Internet Archive should stop being deep state agents and start working for the planet itself.
Any data lost is a result of failure by the archive's operators to break out of deep-state-agent mentality soon enough, and with enough effectiveness.
They still have time to decentralize their resources.
Files need to be distributed via bittorrent. Mainstream trackers need to be added to official archive torrent files (instead of just the archive.org http trackers).
Volunteer couriers need to be given storage devices to transport around the world to volunteer hosts to shift capacity from the centralized organization to the volunteer data hosting network.
Careful planning is needed to maximize how much data can escape the government's grip, before too many volunteers are stopped by force and too much of the data is seized.
Again, I repeat: any data lost is a result of failure by the archive's operators to break out of deep-state-agent mentality soon enough, and with enough effectiveness.
No, the one you linked is the one I usually use
Internet Archive always seemed like a deep state project moving towards a rug pull, the one you linked seems more 50/50 on which way it could turn out
Sadly the Internet Archive seems to have been pretty successful in setting up its rug pull, with a far bigger collection & many more volunteer hours spent building it
I have a rather controversial opinion about them: From a purely personal perspective, I don't find them that important. I'm not particularly positive towards them. I'm not negative either, but I wouldn't miss them.
I have a lot of reservations about the 'right to be forgotten' on the internet and I don't think much of services that archive things without asking and by default (opt-out). I advocate for self-sovereignty, not for a service that undermines any efforts on my part as a website operator when I want to take something offline.
I know there is a robots.txt directive to prevent them from archiving everything. But, as I said, that's an opt-out, not an opt-in.
View quoted note →yea, this is tragic. I have used them for years, primarily for history and genealogy research. now the books cant be downloaded for any length of time, and music comes in 30 second samples
Get as many SSD as you can and download as much stuff as possible.
Willheim
If you're not paying attention to what's going on with The Internet Archive, you're missing a BIG story. This is NOT good. Currently they are under DDOS and this is after they're being sued out of existence for digitizing 78rpm records that aren't even available anymore. They're facing a $600+MM lawsuit. They previously lost a suit during the 'demic when they released digitized books for free. The likelihood that they will end up shut down and entire histories of the net will be lost forever is high.
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Incredibly fucked up.
Willheim
If you're not paying attention to what's going on with The Internet Archive, you're missing a BIG story. This is NOT good. Currently they are under DDOS and this is after they're being sued out of existence for digitizing 78rpm records that aren't even available anymore. They're facing a $600+MM lawsuit. They previously lost a suit during the 'demic when they released digitized books for free. The likelihood that they will end up shut down and entire histories of the net will be lost forever is high.
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I don't know much about The Internet Archive, but...
The world doesn't 'owe' us a record of everything that was ever written/recorded, let alone the ability to access it immediatley and for zero cost.
If you are the author of something that you want preserved for decades, then you have to make the effort to host / torrent it.
I feel that internet archive could work really well with lightning... paying a few sats per view could keep the project going.
any way to help as a pleb?
Someone is spending a lot of resources to attack history itself.
The question should be what do they want to be hidden and forgotten?
They need to blockchain it
Facts.
IP is also a fiat scam.
It’s very alarming, would be a digital equivalent of burning the Library of Alexandria
Too many things to count
It's a very sad story. Hopefully people learn that we all need to be archivists and not outsource this responsibility, however awesome IA is.
Sure, but IA gets used all the time for the plebs to fact check the masters. It's a valuable tool.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
Willheim
If you're not paying attention to what's going on with The Internet Archive, you're missing a BIG story. This is NOT good. Currently they are under DDOS and this is after they're being sued out of existence for digitizing 78rpm records that aren't even available anymore. They're facing a $600+MM lawsuit. They previously lost a suit during the 'demic when they released digitized books for free. The likelihood that they will end up shut down and entire histories of the net will be lost forever is high.
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So weird. Surely, 78 rpm records are of the public domain by now, no?
What can we do? This is horrible.
Oh boy, that’s a well thought paranoia. IA, just avoid distributing copyrighted material in the open and have a more decentralized infrastructure. For people just own your data, your communications and try to be happy
