Apparently it doesn’t matter if it's associated with a digital purchase or not. They consider zap button on a post = associated with the content even if the receiving user doesn’t know its from a post. okay…
I guess they have their own unwritten guidelines that you have to follow
jb55
Had another call and they’re making me remove the zap button from the post now
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They just choose rules on the spot
Did they have an explanation how twitter achieves this that you could follow?
Apple is trash and forever lost all of my business
The time is actually simple: will they be able to take a cut off the money? No? Then it's not allowed 🤦♂️
Rule*
Stupid and arbitrary. Not sure how fountain can get away with paying people with sats or how rewards get to stay in the Bing app. They made Brave take out their reward stuff.
I wonder if using the user profile photo as a shortcut to opening the zap menu would slide by their rules.
Or long pressing it
Its like when you have a wrong passport and the fiat banks keep asking “source of income”.
Make it a profile image. Same function- takes a person to the profile where they can Zap
Seems like Bitcoin (and especially lightning) is generally a threat to the App Store business model.
Play it out, if we are allowed to send sats freely. Apple won’t be able to enforce taking their cut for anything done via iOS unless they allow Apple Pay to use Bitcoin and Lightning.
So I’m not surprised they’re trying to squash it.
Fuck it man just keep dragging more information
Yes 👇
My bad, tells you how out of touch with Twitter I am..... gladly.
Maybe as long as there were other options too like "visit profile" and "send message" in a profile preview box? But at this point they are likely to double down on their take.
You should negotiate to find out if there is a limited amount that can be spent on a zap. Say limiting it to 1 sat for that button. For the IRS the unwritten rule is $600. For sales tax reporting purposes it might be a fraction of a cent. For Apple Music store the threshold is 99¢.
Rules without rulers.
How would average users know to do this? This is your own argument for mass adoption.
Yea I’m not holding my breath 😅 But curious where they’re ultimately drawing the line.
Eventually they will come up with an execuse to ban lightning all together. This is just a charade to buy time. Fuck them and build a PWA version now while we still have some momentum
Yes that’s a great idea
It seems that it is inevitable to remove the payment and receipt methods from Damus
Isn't there anyway to do this without permission?
It’s me or Apple says: leave the app like Twitter did and that’s it. (Only tips on the profile) don’t place it anywhere else.? 😑
I mean this is already a tremendous victory that they are treating zaps as spending real money. So now you get to negotiate with a seat at the table. And on your side of the table you have lighting fees and on their side of the table is Goldman Sax losing billions subsidizing the Apple Credit Card.
Or double tape the like/shaka for a zap 🤷🏾♂️
@Roberto @npub1qvum...m3rx how might we redesign zap flow if shortcut to profile zap is forbidden?
Old napkin sketch:
I think its drawn. At least until the dust settles.
We all know it's just because there is no way for them to take a cut of the zaps. Excuses are tiring
It does seem that way.
@jb55 Remove the zap button from the posts. And I do have an idea..on the like button short press is just a like, long press the like button and pop-ups the window to zap.
Time will tell I suppose. There is always more at play than it appears.
@jb55 how about removing the zap button from the note and long press profile pic to bring up the top half of the profile ? Would make it longer to zap though…
Fine.
Start selling in-app purchase currencies, call them “bad apples”
“Apps may use in-app purchase currencies to enable customers to “tip” the developer or digital content providers in the app.”
Put an 🍎 where the⚡️is and when you tap it, it turns rotten.
We’re starting to see where Apple’s platform app framework is cracking under the stress of protocol possibilities.
The only thing left to do is troll until their social app framework breaks.
Don't feed the beast.
mock them relentlessly
Any app can enable zaps and go around apple.
It wouldn't be hard and they're scared.
"You have a nice app there, what a shame if something happened to it..." Apple execs thinks they can get away with Chicago style gangsterdom.
They are pointing to one paragraph that implies their underlying reasoning, but further down in their policy (P 3.1.5(v)) they call out zaps more specifically.
We need a web app 😢
Why not extend the profile pic visual on the top left of a note .. and put a LN symbol next to it, surrounded by an extended dark oval. That way, the LN symbol is associated with the profile pic.. i.e the profile.
Let’s remove it for now and we will figure out a solution later.
Aha?
Not worth the fight at this time. Get rid of it and save for the fight in future. For example you could bring it back in another form OR non Apple platform OR maybe antitrust will discipline Apple in future and then you could bring it back. When time comes we will join antitrust against Apple too.
