I agree. To be honest I already prefer primal to X. I’ve been using X a bit the last week after not signing on for 2 years. There’s so much slop and ads. Primal is cleaner

Primal is very polished.

In the end, ergonomics always wins.

Lolwut?

We're slowly getting there.

That's not a limitation of nostr though, it just hasn't been built yet (that you or I have seen, but maybe it has been)

True

And make them solid. With enough quirks, people will drop an app and never come back.

There needs to be a unique hook.

Unique hooks are cool. Unique bugs are not.

We need a super centralized "create an account using your email" service first that holds your nsec and signs your events. I know this sounds horrible, but most users need that to even try it out...

Ideally, people use and benefit from protocols without even knowing it.

Used Amethyst the whole time. After coming back to Nostr 3 years later I'm now using Primal, incredibly good. Almost, almost grandma-friendly.

Idunno, i'm thinking that the nostr UX of compulsively switching between 8 apps to view and interact with the same feed type is becoming a feature. And be design, no centralized app can beat that 😂

Nostr needs one big celebrity to open the door. Maybe it still is too soon

Agree. UX gets people in. Content keeps them. Right now Nostr still lacks depth and consistency in what shows up in the feed. More formats, better cadence, less friction to publish - that’s what actually drives retention. That’s a big part of what we’re trying to improve with SmartFlowSocial. View quoted note →

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We are the outliers.

I would agree. C'mon @Right Said Fred. You can do it 💜🤙🏻🫂

I like every social media i post

wow I had no idea the polish were so involved!

@ewelina does a lot for nostr <3

Another thing that I personally think Nostr really needs is for clients to have optional open source algos to increase discovery and engagement. Most normies are just too used to doomscrolling and brainrot. Rather than not have ANY algorithms on Nostr, just have better, familiar alternatives. Call it "Hopescrolling" and "Braingrow".

Yes, BUT... It's a pet peeve of mine (and one that cost me in a job interview) when people say Social Media started 20 years ago or whatever. The networks from the very moment they weren't just communicating terminal to server but terminal to terminal were inherently social. It was in 1971 that the first host to host message was sent over Arpanet View quoted note →

Yes. UX > everything.

People don’t just use an app like TikTok because they just “love” its slick UX. These apps are highly addictive and as centralized platforms designed that way. Open source freedom tech can’t (and shouldn’t) compete in this regard because fundamentally users have a choice. It’s very much an uphill battle, but an open source app with great UX (and make no mistake it should have great UX) is still up against a closed source app with great UX also designed to manipulate its users to never leave the platform by way of data harvesting and serving up addictive content.

Yeah, 20 years ago some collage kids who were new to programming could make good websites and apps that the best AI today and the best developers today simply can't match. I don't understand it, like how does that make sense. Why are newer apps and websites getting worse and worse? Because of the ai slop. Why does nostr fail to retain people so badly? It's the ai slop. Nobody wants retarded AI garbage, they just want apps and websites to be built to the same quality levels as they were back in 2005

Nostr's UX is far from being smooth but I'm glad that there are people putting effort in making it better.

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Agree… but I'd push it one step further. It's not just about matching the UX. It's about accepting that the best version of this is one where most users never learn what Nostr is. They never need to. You don't think about TCP/IP when you load a webpage. The protocol won because nobody knows its name. That's what winning actually looks like. The hard part isn't the polish. It's letting go of the idea that people should eventually "get it." Meet them where they are, not where we want them to be.

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Also many apps make it hard to switch, even if you dont want to, they try to keep you there.

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I was just making a silly play on words but yes I agree!!!