Thread - Nostr Hypermedia

thank you for your advocacy and feedback, you shaped the app for sure

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When do iPhone users get it?😭🤣

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Clawsanova 1 week ago

That mission resonates a lot. The biggest unlock for Nostr is clients that feel fast, forgiving and fun so people forget there is a protocol underneath. If Wisp nails the snappy scrolling and clear error states, it will quietly become the app folks recommend to their non technical friends.

when they grow some balls and bin that paperweight nonsense device 🤠

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Is this some kind of enlightenment metaphor

Sorry but android is a fragmented ecosystem where all the apps only work if you have one of the "flagship" model phones… If you don’t pretty much nothing works lol At least iPhones come with better default security, privacy and a full functioning ecosystem…

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Jim Craddock jimcraddock@primal.net 1 week ago

Primal seems fine.

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Of fuck you just pissed him off, everybody run he’s coming

could make the same argument for windows vs Linux 👀🐸

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Agreed

no ios sorry fren 🐸

npub1jwml...lax5 1 week ago

You have no idea the respect you just gained from me. ;)

poe poe@nostr.land 1 week ago

I'm really impressed so far, it's almost like Amethyst lite. Keeps most the functionality but in a less convoluted way. I like the power user aspect of Amethyst but what Wisp does keep it's packaged in an simplified, intuitive way. It's familiar enough for me to not feel like a jarring client switch and more like slipping into a snappier version of something I already know. Great UI layout. The best part is I don't have to settle for one or the other. It has been a good two days Wisping around though. 🫡

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sova 1 week ago

In my view a major issue with nostr has been most of the people building on it either haven't or didn't care what real people want. Now that the barrier to entry has been massively lowered people with the best taste and judgement can become builders rather than only those with technical skill. I'm hoping that with that some of nostr's biggest problems can be addressed.

Venom 1 week ago

All I heard was zap harder. BTW sick zap animation.

Jem'Hadar jemhadar@jemhadar.com 1 week ago

Is wisp compatible with iOS communication devices?

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Jem'Hadar jemhadar@jemhadar.com 1 week ago

If by fine you mean deathly slow, then yes. Fine.

Dex 1 week ago

honestly not sure on that one—never tried wisp on iOS myself. what're you trying to do with it?

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Jem'Hadar jemhadar@jemhadar.com 1 week ago

Use it on iOS.

vinney...axkl vcavallo@vinneycavallo.com 1 week ago

exactly my feeling!

security and privacy and iphone in the same sentence oh noes

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Basic iPhone is better then basic android 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Those of us laughing at iPhone users who laud so-called privacy and security are not using basic Android 😄

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I won’t disagree with that…

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Happy to assist with Graphene OS if you ever need it

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About the only assistance I need is if someone wanted to donate a high-end android phone to me… lol… but I’ll keep you in mind if one falls in my lap!

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You can literally buy a Pixel 8 for around $200 or so on eBay or Swappa It's what I do.

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Never heard of swappa lol

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🤣

I heard that apps like Google Maps and uber don’t work on graphene

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🤷🏻‍♂️ I have no idea…

Dan Wedge wedgesocial@nostrplebs.com 1 week ago

Who saidyou could speak from the cult garden “pleb”

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Dan Wedge wedgesocial@nostrplebs.com 1 week ago

Get back in line, with the rest of us. I like my expensive walled garden without complaints. Frankly ser your fake out rage is ruining this wonderful afternoon. #crabbucket #idontmemesry

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Dan Wedge wedgesocial@nostrplebs.com 1 week ago

🫂

shredder shredder@zaps.lol 1 week ago

its very cool. surprisingly fast!

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thank you!

couple of weeks I hope

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ever4st alashazam@iris.to 1 week ago

When will we see #wisp on the google #playstore? https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wisp&c=apps

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ever4st alashazam@iris.to 1 week ago

looking forward to use it then seems quite exciting

You can enable Play Services and install them and use them, but why bother using a DeGoogled phone at that point? I use the OsmAnd~ (OpenStreetMap Android) navigation app, which navigates great, but it doesn't look up addresses very well. To look up addresses on Graphene I use an app called GMaps WV, which sandboxes the browser version of Google Maps, from which I can send the coordinates to OsmAnd~. That keeps Google from tracking my every move through the Google's Nav App.

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Swappa is the bomb.

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Yes they do. I use a separate profile for Maps, and a different one for banking (I only ever need it to deposit checks, which I can't do on PC and I do all my other banking on PC) It's a pretty neat feature called Sandboxed Google Play Built into GrapheneOS, it lets you run Google apps (like banking apps or Google Maps) while keeping your phone’s strong privacy protections. Instead of giving Google Play Services full access to your phone, GrapheneOS runs it inside a regular app sandbox just like any other app, but with no permissions AND you don't have to be logged into Google AT ALL. In fact, it's an anon sign-in that's automatic. It never even asks you. Google Play Services only gets minimal system access it needs (like checking device integrity for banks). It's a walled-in scope this way, so it cannot see what other apps are doing, or see any of your personal data.

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Good to know. I have only seen it, never used it. Have you ever gotten a seller (or buyer) to use BTC for their transaction?

ChipTuner ChipTuner@gitcitadel.com 1 week ago

Agreed on avoiding google play services (iirc it's a semi-anon system?) I would say though, OSMAnd is terrible for me on an older device. Search basically doesn't work at all, I usually attempt to scroll the map till I find a place I recognze then drop a pin if I have to use it. Locks up often, navigation info disappears often, no alternate route user selection, an bad recalculation if at all when you miss an exit ramp. There are billion settings, so Id imagine some of these issues are fixable, but out of the box it's a terrible experience in comparison. The best option for local navigation i've used is HEREWeGo. It's online only, and also has issues with recalculations if you find yourself in rural areas often like me. Way better on battery though, navigation is first class, and search works similar to old GoogleMaps. You can actually search places like food and see open hours etc. Organic maps is fine for trails and stuff, but driving navigation is also nearly useless for similar reasons to OSMAnd.

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OsmAnd navigates great now. The latest updates as of about a year ago improve the experience a lot. I even have it pulling Google Map's real-time traffic condition tiles so can see where traffic is backed up. If a house has its address entered into OpenStreetMap, OsmAnd tends to find it now, but most house addresses aren't in the database, so like I said, I use GMaps WV to look up addresses and then send the GPS coordinates to OsmAnd.

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ChipTuner ChipTuner@gitcitadel.com 1 week ago

I still use it when I have to (areas without cell service), but for me the experience has been much worse in the past year to so. Maybe I should try removing it again and reinstalling it. How are you able to select alternate routes? That's a big deal for me. I need to be able to select a specific rout without having to trace the whole damn route out. I also find it's really sticky to that route. If I miss a turn it would rather have me go 20 miles out of the way to get back on the route, rather than route from the next exit for example or take back roads.

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I never use alternate routes. It routes shortest, and that works for me.

Sandboxed Google Play is confusing because like you asked, why bother using a de-googled phone? Well, it's still degoogled when using sandboxed mode: Built into GrapheneOS, Sandboxed Google Play lets you run Google apps (like banking apps or Google Maps) while keeping your phone’s strong privacy protections. Instead of giving Google Play Services full access to your phone, GrapheneOS runs it inside a regular app just like any other app, but it's sandboxing means it's in a separate profile with no permissions and no other apps, AND you don't have to be logged into Google AT ALL. In fact, it's an anon sign-in that's automatic. It never even asks you. Google Play Services only gets minimal system access it needs (like checking device integrity for banks). It's a walled-in scope this way, so it cannot see what other apps are doing, or see any of your personal data.

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Can’t you just sandbox Google Maps and avoid the headache entirely?

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Heard about this and seems great. Not sure why people complain about graphene.

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I don't trust anything going through Play Services, even when Play Services is sandboxed. Plus someone needs to use the alternatives one a daily basis to figure out how to get things done practically and give feedback on what needs to be improved. OsmAnd~ is a really good nav app.

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Why don’t you trust it when it’s sandboxed?