So they do

lolz/*****

If you close your eyes the Mona Lisa doesn’t work

IF LIGHTNING WOULDN'T WORK I'D STARVE TO DEATH

HAVE THEY TRIED TRYING IT?

Sailboat haters be like: "I don't know how to pilot a sailboat. Sailboats are overcomplicated, they don't work, and no one should use them."

FUDers.

working fine

The problem is that it doesn't scale without becoming way too centralized.

E-cash doesn’t seem to be the answer either to avoid centralization. What’s best option? Accept on-chain with high fees and slow trx?

neither do drivechains lol whatever

That scales much worse of course. Drivechain is a pretty good solution if we can get it, other possible solutions must involve trust, but in a decentralized way.

Drivechain uses blind merge merge mining that solves all these concerns. LN theory is great, I don't complain about its privacy or decentralization. My problems with it are that it doesn't scale so it's wrong to bet on it too much for the future, and it's too fragile, channels don't survive in a hostile environment.

This is completely unrelated. You have no idea of how Drivechain works, I suggest reading

Drivechain: decentralized sidechains for Bitcoin

you really don't seem to understand i have been involved in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general since 2013 and i was working with them and mining them and studying the game theory and developing my own proof of work and my experience told me that over time all the value moves to only one coin, bitcoin, and the rest of them are just ways for VCs to chase after that brief profit when the hype train hits terminal velocity and then after that, it's over it won't make any difference what way you try to construct a way around it, none have succeeded in 15 years to displace bitcoin and lightning is the main reason why bitcoin fees are so low, and there isn't actually a way to measure the liquidity and velocity of money through lightning, so people think it's whatever their favourite influencoor on X says it eas, meanwhile said influencoor pockets the sponsorships to pimp the flavour of the month while the people behind it are stacking sats

I understand all of that stuff, they're irrelevant to my point. Yes, I am not claiming I have a design for a trustless money network protocol that is better than Lightning. There is no sell pressure on Drivechain sidechains because they use pegged Bitcoin as money, not an alternative currency.

Did you even click my link? Drivechain is not a shitcoin, it's just a way to move Bitcoin to sidechains and back. I would be interested in your description of Drivechain, to see how wrong you're getting it -- but now I have told you the truth already and now you know Drivechain doesn't create other coins, it is just a way to scale Bitcoin and add more use cases and features in a way that is fully optional to Bitcoin users, so it won't be interesting anymore.

87%+ of zaps are custodial lmao

Because you're using a custodial service that handles that for you and holds your money missing the entire point of Bitcoin