I know physicians in Egypt that, after their shift, go home and stack physical dollar bills. They earn no interest. If a thief or a fire takes their home, they're done. They have looked around at the monetary technologies available to them, and decided that this was the best one: stacks of paper claims issued by the global hegemon that they're not particularly fond of, stored in their own home rather than trust the banks. What a sad state of affairs. They put as much of their illiquid net worth as possible into buying a condo, and the rest of their liquid net worth goes into paper dollars with no interest. So, for starters, they have to sacrifice liquidity for savings. Egypt is not a very tech-savvy market; bitcoin, stablecoins, and other similar tech are all on the fringes. Many Muslims believe that bitcoin is speculation and thus bad, and so I appreciate the work that Saifedean and others do to show that no, bitcoin is interest-free sound money and good. If anything it's fiat money that doesn't conform to Muslim ideals. But more importantly, most Egyptians haven't actually spent time to understand the tech, unlike Nigeria or other countries. It's just not a "thing" there yet. The only time I encountered someone in person who had not yet heard of bitcoin, was in Egypt. I was speaking to a friend, and we were talking about the Iranian protests; she was happy that many women had taken off their head coverings if they wanted to (she herself was someone who did so in Egypt, where it's permissible). I was like, "yeah, but it's rough for them. They risk getting bank accounts shut off. That's why some of them have promoted bitcoin. but I think it's still way too small yet." And she was like, "what's bitcoin?" And I was surprised. Many people haven't understood bitcoin, but most have heard the name. She hadn't heard the name even in 2022. What we have today is clearly a local maximum. This is clearly not the height of monetary technology. View quoted note →

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techfeudalist 2 years ago
When I learned about gold and halal finance, I started to wonder if the Muslim world might become the greatest supporters of bitcoin.
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Muteness 2 years ago
Yea ... Ive met many people who have never heard of Bitcoin :)
Dollar is the unit. Crypto is affected by margin debt valued in dollars. In the next crisis crypto is going to be the victim of deflation.
Hello Lynn. Personally, I like the idea and even own a digital wallet. But digital currencies will not be reset-proof as advertised for 2030. What do you think?
Keeping paper money In mattresses is a pretty common in the countries where banks had flopped at some point. In former Yugoslavia , for example, many people lost everything in 90’s with demise of state-owned banks.
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Amr Gharbeia 2 years ago
I don't think Egyptians are more or less tech-savvy than people are in socioeconomically similar countries. They are just less free. Transacting in "virtual currencies" without prior permit is a crime in Egypt since the banking laws changes in 2019 (if I remember on the top of my head). It is also a country with very weak rule of law. Even before 2019, police would lurk on localbitcoins and entrap potential buyers, then charge them with money laundering. Like everything Egypt related, finding good on-ramps is going to be a tough nut to crack. In the meantime, people are vulnerable to losing the vast majority of whatever wealth they had.
I assume they don’t know about nostr either? Even though I’m still not 100% sure nostr or BTC is a way forward for people in situations like you explain, I do feel these new technologies, at the very least, show them another way.
And to think drs are the pinnicale of educated in our society. My grandpa a carpenter taught himself about markets. OK he did short term bonds and not bitcoin, but at least he is clued up enough to drop it in something liquid and earning. To be fair tho grandpa doesn't have the work or stress load of a Dr. I feel like if most had the time/lnterest to read and explore hard money they would be convinced, but our society just has us levered and swimming against the current
Am doctor (amongst other traditionally “educated” credentials)... I buy Bitcoin. I have no Fiat. Fools live in a Fiat world. They may be educated or otherwise. Anyone who cares about human suffering can live in a Bitcoin world only.