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What people do not understand is that Internet is a public space. So... if you do not want (some) private stuff to be used against you,, then don't put it on a public space. Same apply for nostr. Another aspect is: if you are not ready and knowledgeable how to rebut any authority, then you better not use Internet for private stuff. image
? e2e encryption exists. The problem is that some people talk encryption but implement plaintext. That's a problem.
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Humility 6 days ago
I never understood telegram for this exact reason
Not all public communities have government agents in them. The point is also to block passive collection. And to promote good tools for cases when it’s important. For private groups, do not add random people. The thing is that Telegram has a weird history WRT encryption. While Signal has been created by a cryptographer with a great reputation and is maintained by a foundation. But telling people it’s all bad and the same is actually harmful. Do not trust blindly, but make good choices. Do not use Telegram.
Even whenn I use WhiteNoise, 0xchat or any other nostr chat messenger, in a DM chat with a single rando on internet, I will not share my personal life. Ah, am I using a private nostr relay and chat app for my family and friends that knows me IRL? That's totally another story.
Also ANOM had a "good reputation"... and in fact was coopted agency. Is so simple: if you do not want your private life to be in public, consider internet as a public space and use only random aliases that have nothing to do with your private life.
Yes, but have you considered there might be other cases? It’s not 0 and 1. It’s a distribution. Promote good tools, inform about bad tools. If you can meet in person, or communicate using one time pads, it’s fantastic. But it’s not everyone.
I’ve already answered this at least two times. I suggest we stop because this conversation is not working out.
Wrong question. Right question: for what are you using internet? For public or private exchange of information ? If you are still using some private information on internet, are you ready to rebut ANY use of authority over that information ? Because many "peivacy advocates" have no idea how is to rebut the authority in the first place and some of them not even have a concept of that.
I understand what you’re talking about. The issue with that thinking is that it’s not scalable. What you’re saying is that we should give up. And I’m saying let’s have those things in mind that you’re talking about, but also let’s maybe make it harder for adversaries to spy on us, no? But with your thinking, we should all go live in a cave somewhere. Computers are here to stay, sorry about that.
I am not saying to give up an go live in a cave. I am saying to treat internet as a public space. That's all. You are not talking loud with your wife, by sending messages (even encrypted or in another unknown language) through your neighbors. You simply discuss in private with your wife. That's all.
I would love to use White Noise as a standard, but nobody in my social environment is willing to adopt due to “inconvenience”. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
I discuss private stuff on signal all the time. There are just levels of private. This is what I’m trying to convey. In fact, I’m saying that we should encrypt everything by default to avoid passive collection and metadata gathering. The only reason I’m having this conversation here is because it serves public benefit.
I used to sell drugs before I got clean and made everybody I dealt with install and use Signal with 30 second vanishing messages to contact me. People hated it.
I’ve asked some colleagues in my space if this is true. From what I’ve gathered, Telegram typically only gives username and IP address. No actual content. This was as of maybe a month ago. That’s their only compliance as far as I’ve heard. That’s via subpoena which doesn’t hold any weight outside the US. Not expert advice.
As I explained somewhere else there is a continuum between your scenario and using no encryption.