Nous c'est qui ? Pour des combats qui ne relèvent point de notre niveau mais plutôt de nos représentants au sein de l'EU l'agenda à négocie et mmis en place avec tant de pays bien avant la pandémie.. Je ne sais si réellement si vous suivez les lois, engagements avant qu'ils soient signés puis il y a même des débats entre citoyens et le parlement EU. Avez-vous déjà participé à ce type de choses ou pas !?Très Intéressant sur Europe direct Euronews..Le chantier actuel est la mise en place de ecadh dont se chargera la France.. Je pense que ce que vous interpellez ont bien à faire pour s'occuper de leur propre territoire même Biden a fait passer DSA Kyc, après le POW... Toutes les infos sont accessibles en ligne rien est caché au citoyen de l'EU

It doesn’t work like that: we can’t do all alone as activists. We need to have miners on our side. Miners in the US actively meeting and educating policymakers. But it is not the case in the EU. Im a human rights defender from Ukraine, living in Belgium. I’ve been working with policymakers for over 14 years. With their support my organization, Open Dialogue Foundation, was able release hundreds of political prisoners in the post-Soviet countries. My team, my lawyers and me - we also experienced abuse of AML/CFT laws by at least three states to persecute us and weaponize our banking data in Belgium and Poland. Dozens of activists were sentenced in #Kazakhstan just because our banking data was shared without any remedies to the regime. That is why we are using #bitcoin and we started BTC campaign in the EU and we successfully educated policymakers during discussions on MiCA and AML Regulation:

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Malheureusement lorsque nous nous battons de notre côté en tant citoyens en France la plupart des pays et leurs citoyens s'en plaignent. Vous savez avant l'Ukraine il y eut bien le Kazakhstan leur président avait fait un discours dans lequel il appelait à tuer tout manifestant. Quand la Russie souvent Obama a pris de facto un autre pays la Crimee qui avez-vous entendu protester. Personne. M'est avis c'est à nous d'informer sensibiliser et former nos paires sur leurs droits

This is what we are doing: defending human rights and #bitcoin is a human rights instrument, which also needs to be defended. If not us, who and why should defend it?

Même les associations de type greeepeace ou autres à partir du moment qu'elles reçoivent des subventions d'' Etats et de lobbyistes fort nébuleux ils n' agissent que pour fanfaronner. Les dessous des cartes m'ecoeurent mais ne m'empêche guère de faire mon job, de la plupart des citoyens ne suivent même les infos, sans oublier que les grands patrons ne s'intéressent plus à assister aux réunions les plus importantes, c'est plus leurs services juridiques qui étudient les conclusions des actes pris ce depuis avant la COP 21 par exemple.

Savez vous aujourd'hui qui est le plus détenteur de Bitcoin au Monde ou pas et pourtant personne ne l'évoque, tous pointent du Larry, Saylor, Vanguard Goup..

True. But just to complain not enough, we need actively defend and promote our position.

I know from the media, but don’t know them personally so far.

L'EU n'a plus de sens depuis que chaque pays ne cherche qu'à obtenir des l'argent pour développer son propre territoire, l'une des raisons primordiales du Brexit, de plus chaque membre signe ses propres accords avec des acteurs qui percent et fragilisent cette Europe dont on aspirait la puissance. L'euro depuis 4ans equivaut, d' où l'intelligence de l'empire britannique d'avoir su préserver sa livre. J'ai tant d'exemples de pays qui profitent de l'EU tant en cédant leurs zones stratégiques.. rien l'exemple de la Grèce devait réveiller les membres fondateurs, fragilisée pourtant on tend à l'élargir sans pourtant avoir ni les moyens et pour d'autres d'étre Protégés en tant de guerre plus élargies. Seule la Norvège et un peu l'UK hors Otan demeurent souveveraines. Nous n'avions même de munitions pour faire à la Turquie en Méditerranée bien avant la covid.

Dans ce cas je vous engage à éviter les subventions de toute part de devenir comme greenpeace.. Quant aux droits universels de l'homme même le France après la révolution ne les respecte aux USA idem si vous lisez les textes des pères fondateurs,. Pourtant tant de morts pour ces droits... 😭

When you say that EU has no more sense - I would argue that we live in the world where a lot of things or to be precise institutions and their rules have no sense. But where are you going to move ? To authoritarian states? We live in the new reality and new order, where those whom we delegated our rights to rule on our behalf in democracies do not able to respond properly to attacks from dictators. It is a complex problem and you can’t hide from it, it is affecting all of us and we can solve it only jointly, understanding our responsibility for that process. #Bitcoin is a part of that solution but in the global context it can be also killed if there is no people defending it.

You don’t need to urge me. Open Dialogue Foundation- my organization - doesn’t get any funds from the state institutions. We are operating thanks to micro donations of thousands of private persons and companies.

Il faut mieux être indépendants de nos grandes institutions

Je rajoute certaines subventions émanant de certains fonds privés se devraient d'être vérifiés.. Puisque les donations constituent un moyen pour certains de moins payer des impôts comme tous les citoyens qui font fonctionner le système de manière contributive... Il y a beaucoup de fondations par exemple dans le monde de l'art sont créés en ce sens. Désolée j'ai dû me déconnecterun moment afin d'échanger avec des amis. Serait ravie de pouvoir échanger de nouveau sur ces thématiques qui nous tiennent sur le terrain.., 🙏💜

J'ai bien lu votre bio dès que j'ai vu votre note en copie pour Jack, Mick.. que je connais très bien ainsi que l'ensemble de ses activités ou partenariats que je suis. Merci beaucoup

Hope to meet you offline sometime!

Nous ne sommes pas très éloignées l'une de l'autre. Tout est une question d'organisation et pour les conférences prévues en Europe relatives au Bitcoin sauf celle de Prague Amsterdam culturellement j'essayerai de m'y rendre. Bitcoin bien maîtrisant le concept et l'objectif visés j'en détiens mais géré par un ami qui maîtrise très l'autre aspect training de la cryptomonnaie.

Fine, Im going to BTC Prague. So maybe we can meet there. ⚡️

Nous pourrions effectivement... surtout dans cette ville très representative d'une des parts de l'histoire européenne.

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If your freedom money still requires you to ask permission, is it really freedom money?

Any regulation is overregulation. This is why you'll ultimately fail. Your stance must be ZERO. Any amount of compromise will mean you've ultimately lost. It will never stop.

You don't have to ask permission. You can absolutely choose to not comply. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences. We will have to choose between definite slavery or potential consequences.

The fact this is even in the realm of possibilities is absolutely mind-blowing. Say you're free and your government tells you how to use your computational power in the same sentence. View quoted note →

It's absolutely insane that this is even something y'all have to fight. Our governments need a kick in the nuts to bring em back to reality 😡

Politicians just most of people follow narratives. Who is creating and maintaining negative narratives against #bitcoin? If you follow it you get a reply where democratic states are heading blindly. China and other dictatorships banned or are at the process of banning #PoW and #bitcoin to preserve its benefits as their own privilege, just as dictatorships did with other freedoms. Unfortunately, most of people in democracies think that freedoms are guaranteed and you don’t need any more need to defend it. I assure you, that it is not a case at all. Freedoms are easy to lose and almost impossible, or only with a highest price you get back.

1st law from Michael , Focus on your energy

It is all about privileges and instruments you have in your hands to defend your life, close to your people, or your peaceful environment, home where do you live. If you don’t defend them, but enjoy your freedoms - it means someone did this job for you. My 15 years of experience in human rights gave me painful lessons that all freedoms have to be defended or better to be preserved from abuse, and reality doesn’t care if you admit it or not. In democracies you have more chances to defend/preserve your freedoms in easier and safe way. In case of political prisoners or victims of torture of dictatorships - political pressure of democratic institutions is the only chance to save imprisoned activist’s lives. In dictatorships even like of the post in social media can cost you a life. Same can happen with bitcoin, especially if democracies label it in the regulations with criminal activities. #bitcoin as a technology doesn’t need me or you. But it was created by freedom fighter Satoshi #Nakamoto to support freedom fighters. In solidarity I don’t want to allow to some lazy privileged individuals in democratic countries to ban/label #bitcoin or #PoW with any illicit activities/threat to security at the early stage of its existence. In democracies I can safely explain to regulators that it is an enormous mistake of privileged people, who don’t know what is financial exclusion in practice and forget that technology is always should be evaluated as a neutral tool. It can be used by bad and good actors. But it doesn’t mean that legitimate actors should suffer. And those whom I met from regulators agreed with me and our recommendations, both in US and EU. That is why I want to continue my work in defense of neutral language to bitcoin and PoW as technology in democracies. I cannot do this in authoritarian states. I experienced what does it mean being financially excluded due to coordinated attacks of three dictators in the very heart of EU, in Brussels. Also just as my colleagues activists in dictatorships - we need both bitcoin as the only financial tool we have rights now and both political support of democratic governments who help us to release political prisoners.

It is not about requesting permission at all. When you defend your freedom it is not requesting something, it is using procedure in democracy (likely we have such privileges) to preserve your position and show wrong approach of government who is representing your interests. Governments live on our money/taxes, and again in democracy you can defend your position in a safe way. Where are you going to move if all countries become authoritarian?

When you have privilege to operate in a safe country- surely, you can focus on energy. But if suddenly you are not, your perspective changes.

In which country do you leave/what citizenship do you have? You can answer to yourself. Not me publicly. Try to apply your recommendations with citizenship of authoritarian regimes and write something at social media to ignore the order of regime. Then we can continue our exchange of the opinions.

I'm not seeing how you would prevent such a regime from over regulating or banning anything then. You have nothing to gain by making requests of authoritarian regimes to respect your freedom. Taking it (which was my point) is your only option. That's why we call them authoritarian. There is no asking or compromise. They do what they want.

Enough people have to either fight back, escape, or deal with not being free. Sorry, but compromising and allowing regulation will only result in creep toward more regulations. Abusers never stop unless you have a zero tolerance policy. Besides, what is and isn't overregulation is subjective, which is why the creep always happens. Zero is objective.

I don't think you are getting my point at all.

I'm not saying you shouldn't defend freedom, I'm saying you should accept NO regulations at all. Maximum freedom. Your post said you were fighting against overregulation. That implies that you are accepting some regulations. My point is that allowing any involvement will always trend TOWARD less freedom, not more. Government has no business AT ALL in Bitcoin. Not in mining, custody, or trade. None. Allowing any involvement at all will eventually make you lose.

You should use procedure to remove government entirely. But you only have noncompliance as an option if procedure doesn't work.

Im not questioning your professionalism just because I don’t know how to do coding/programming. 😉 I look at proof of work: what people are doing and achieving accordingly after saying something. As Open Dialogue Foundation we defended and helped to release hundreds of political prisoners in authoritarian states: both key politicians, journalists, activists, independent judges, lawyers, entrepreneurs, their family members taken as hostages by regimes and just people who were repressed for likes/shares of political posts in social media. We protected thousands of peaceful protestors in different countries and we expose massive financial exclusion as a repressive tool against millions. Actually because my work is very effective three regimes announced/classified me as a threat to national security to their powers back in 2018.

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They tried to paralyze and even kill me and my colleagues, luckily I was protected by Belgian, #Swiss , #French, #UK and #German governments. At the same time regimes unfortunately succeed to weaponize my banking data in #Belgium even with all political protections I got at that time. It was possible due to the abuse of AML/CFT laws. It cost unfortunately life, imprisonment to both my organization’s donors and recipients of the funds in authoritarian states. And I spent years to release those who became victims of the weaponization of my banking data in Belgium and Poland and in parallel started to educate #EU and #US regulators about those abuses to change the regulations. So how I not only survived being completely deprived the right to have banking accounts in the very heart of the EU, but helping other victims of financial exclusion, provided humanitarian aid to Ukraine for over 8 mln euro? Answer is very simple-with #bitcoin. That is why I defend bitcoin as a human right technology in democracies. And we succeeded in doing so at some aspects: thanks to the support of @jack @npub1hyqr...k7cp @Obi 🔅 we convinced regulators to change AML regulation in the EU protecting banking data, the right for banking and recognition that #bitcoin as crypto-asset is a payment & fundraising instrument, we defended the legitimacy of use the self-hosted wallets. But now the US is pushing back against such liberalization in the EU and attacking privacy tools, p2p transactions via recommendations of FATF/G7. So we came to DC too to defend our the only financial freedom tool and met with US State Department, US #FATF, #Senate and other regulatory bodies. You can read more here:

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The BTC Coalition: Combating Financial Exclusion - Open Dialogue Foundation

Oppressive states tend to exclude their opponents from the financial system, a practice that lacks public scrutiny and facilitates the abuse of in...

Try to live in Somalia or other failed state, then with this experience it will be easier to have discussion. I don’t have privilege to be theoretical, but I need to have effective tools to resist oppression in the more and more shrinking democratic world.

Your responses make absolutely no sense relative to any of my points so I will go ahead and end the conversation. Thanks, and take care.

We live with different experiences and it is ok, that you don’t get it. Enjoy your freedom. Someone defended it in your country a long time ago. But with current trends it will not last forever.

@npub1kvc5...3sty FYI

Do you use passport to move from the country to country? Do you use banking? Do you pay your bills? Do you call police/emergency if someone injured? Do you follow rules when driving? Answer to you, not me. If any of those answers “yes” - it means you comply with regulations or you expect them to be implemented. Im not theoretical, but practical. Your bravery will probably end with the moment of arrest/fines in case if #bitcoin is labeled in the regulations as a tool for illicit activities only.

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My freedom in the US was the direct result of people who decided to no longer allow any involvement from the king. They didn't become more free by negotiating with him and settling for not having "overregulation" (whatever that even means). Starting with an undefined definition of success is not a winning strategy. I'm not sure how you're getting that I dont want to fight for freedom out of anything I have said. I've said the exact opposite. You will always end up with more tyranny by allowing any regulation of Bitcoin. They will only ever want more. The only chance of winning long term is to start from the position that you have a right that can't be violated. Allowing any level of violating will only result in future violations. I can't make that any more clear so, again, take care.

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The #EU is a fascist states that depends on its own lies, propaganda and censorship to survive. Sold to the pleb with a promise for peace, itns now driving the world on the brink of ww3, most likely driven by the military industrial complex and it's intense lobbying and corruption. #Frexit #Nexit #Spanexit #Italexit We need to bring this beast of a mafia to it's knees.

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Thank you for solidarity 🍀⚡️

So where is a safe place to live according to your opinion?

It depends what you mean by safe. Centralisation of power is everywhere and there are no democracies in this world. Democracy is the power of the people, by the people and for the people. If you mean actual safety, looking at statistics the EU is becoming more and more dangerous because of it's forced open borders policies. #Shengen was great on paper before the rulling class decided to let unfiltered waves of migrants enter the continent. Mass killings and outright murders were unheard of before in countries like France and Sweden, they have become just a fact of life. The trouble is things are getting worse, not better as immigrants keep coming in with no control or visa requirements. I'm told the Emirates are a very safe place to live. A young girl can walk outside at 2am anywhere carefree. You would not say that about Paris now.

I will be kidnapped or arrested as other my colleagues in Emirates within hours. It all depends on what passport you hold and who is protecting you. Emirates also censoring message apps but in the EU you can use them freely so far.

Keep up the good work 🙌🏼

Be sure to repost this! We need to speak against bans of POW or the future may lean towards more of a POS/CBDC future. View quoted note →

I am not criticizing you for advocating for freedom. I am criticizing you for advocating for *Bitcoin* which is supposed not to need such advocacy. If Bitcoin does need advocacy, it is by that very fact unworthy of it.

I’m kinda on your side with this one but do you really think it’s impossible to gain support for no regulation on bitcoin in EU??

Thank you. We need your solidarity and support 🍀

I understand your point and actually share it absolutely. But I guess you would agree that we still at the early stages of real development of functionality of #bitcoin. So what I do with my advocacy: I allow and protect end-users (activists) to be able use bitcoin right now as the only payment instrument we have, at the same time to preserve the safe environment for the technology to develop. But the goal is to have bitcoin based financial instruments which censor resistant. To reach this point of adoption we need still more years. But for many those who are financially excluded in authoritarian states it is a matter of life and death right now. So I do all possible to have them access/ use of bitcoin right now and be supported by democratic governments due to political repression in their countries right now.

Too many actors are pushing for regulation and this process is at the very developing stage. And it has happened because at the stage of discussion there were no voices of those who defended #bitcoin. What I try to do to build solidarity circle of bitcoiners and activists to educate legislators and regulators in democracies to slow or minimize draconian regulation approach. Most of legislators were not aware that the laws they adopted made banking/financial data absolutely exposed to the abuses of dictatorships. And it is not something theoretical: I and many activists, our families paid a huge price for that mistake. And I ask one simple question to them: give me just one instrument which will replace p2p bitcoin transactions and mixers as a privacy measure to defend my and other activists rights to fundraise and support/transfer money in a safe way for politically repressed people in dictatorships. So what I hear in response? Regulators and legislators don’t have answers even to protect right now the traditional financial institutions. So this discussion is very effective.

Thank you

Thank you too 🍀

Thank you!!

Are you from Tchekoslovakia ? Whyat makes you think you'd get kidnapped in the emirates ? I'm not very knowledgable about the place, I just got some feedback from people who've been. I'm about to visit the place actually, to see it with my own eyes. I'm not sure where is a safe place to live to be honest. It seems the influence of the WEF and the centralisation of power it advocates is everywhere.

Im from Ukraine, but I was a subject of the coordinated attacks of three authoritarian regimes since 2018 due to my human rights work. You can learn here more:

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thanks, I'll listen to it.

Thank you so so much for what you are doing!

Thank you for your support and solidarity. 🍀🫶

Keep doing the good work!

Thank you for your solidarity 🍀🫶

supported, thank you

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Thank you @jack . Hope to see you in Madeira. Thanks to your support we did preserve self-hosted wallets in the EU last year. So now your help defense of PoW in the EU is extremely important. It is easy to ban PoW and make it scapegoat when almost no one stands on it. We don’t want to allow our the only payment and fundraising instrument to be labeled with false narratives of “energy or environment threats/ unsustainable“. We have to be fast, just as in the US, the draft with discriminatory sustainability indicators will be given to EU Commission in June this year. Then just implemented, no discussion in the EU parliament. We should met European Security and Market Authority/EU Commission in March the latest to follow up on our submissions in defense of PoW and #bitcoin.

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