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At least they are festive! ๐
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blocked reported so many today ๐
Our bots are better than their bots!
Cramer is bearish on Happy New Year bots so...
๐ฏ๐๐๐๐ ๐ต๐๐ ๐๐๐๐!
Think I hace about 75 blocked. They seem to be about gone. I'll see one here or there. Lol
๐๐ช๐น๐น๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ช๐ป!
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bots are making sure everybody gets their New Year's wishes. Nobody gets left behind!
Going viral even with the bots you're successful AF happy New Year ๐ฅ
I blocked 20+ earlier.
It's the bots ๐๐๐
Happy New Year! ๐ฅ
Implementing a 1sat (or whatever ammount) cost per comment, 10 per note would mitigate their activity
Maybe simply a filter you can toggle on and off that filters out comments and notes that don'pay the fee
The question is pays to what/who?!
And the problem is the LN fees are higher then 1sat
Several solutions exist. We have Proof of Work for notes and paid relays. If I set my client to only show notes with a minimum Proof of Work of 1, they all go away, and so does nearly all of the comments from regular people, because most people don't use PoW. Paid relays are the simple and easy fix. I set my feed to not show content from public relays and all of the noise disappears. However, not everyone uses paid relays.
As for your suggestion, pay per note is a concept that relays can implement. The payments go to the relay operator.
These โaccountsโ have no metadata event or relay list. They just expose the weakness in depending upon individual mutes. Itโll always be wack a mole to some extent.
Yes, what I meant is that that or spmething simolar becomes the standard, I don't have paid relays and even forgot about the PoW filter/function tbh
It just wasn't bothering me enough till now
So maybe all we need is that the problem get's big enough that people start caring and looking for solutions ๐
So a bit like the ordinals/high fee problem we're having
Some people pay $1m to have their commercial published on TV. It all depends what you think you're getting out of the publication.
With nostr wallet connect app I think you could check the balance of someones connected ln wallet and say,
if btc balance >= 0 (send post) else (ask user to top up)
This would require the bots to spend the hardest money in the world in order to post. Won't reduce 100% but should reduce I'd imagine.
For real users who have added value through their notes they should have some btc to send as normal.
Michael Saylor came up with something similar a while back.
#security #nostrdev #nostrwalletconnect #anti-spam #spam #bots #Saylor
I mean balance > 0
There are always bugs on first draft!
What I'd you check user wallet balance is above 0 or some other useful amount of sats before post is allowed. Not a cost per follower. Playing with this idea.
Although you'd need to reply or post to earn sats so I may have shot myself in the foot. Maybe it applies to replies only so you can post without positive sat balance but not reply. A user could spend some times adding valuable posts and earning sats before being allowed replies. Just playing with the idea for now.
I read you could check balance with nostr wallet connect so seems plausible. Willing to admit it may not solve much as I'm not that knowledgeable on the topic. Now I think more about it it would only apply to a client if implemented and bots could just build there own simply client to avoid.
That's the fun part, it's not the publishers client that sets the parameters, but each user/reader can set them on his own app for example I coul set that I only see notes that payd 100sats and comments that payd 10
Everyone can publiach whatever he wants, each user AND relay set his own parameters on what he wants to see/propagate
As @Derek Ross sed in the answer to my comment, there are already some solutions/options
A PoW filter and pays relays, so if you only connect to those you would see only people who use those so definetly less spam, but it simply isn't the standard atm