Good morning, if you are starting to notice you've been bamboozled and led into a minority fork, there is no shame in changing your mind. It's your bitcoin on the line.

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Yeah, everything is fine. An angry mob of numbskulls can just get spun up and call everyone pedos and enemies of bitcoin, and we'll just pretend like it never happened. That's totally a thing in Bitcoin.
Keep in mind, the majority of the BIP110ers are very new bitcoiners. The average pleb who supports BIP110 shouldn’t be exiled for being duped by a bunch or retards who wanted to seize control of the protocol. Their leaders however can fork off
Nah. Lopp jumped right on that. NVK never stood a chance.
What's the split, do you think, between BIP-110ers who say "Wow, I was eggregioisly misled about the way this would unfold" and those who will just make up a new conspiracy about why they failed?
Bitcoin: Made by Satoshi and given FREE-LY to the world. Open source, free to use, develop on ect. Guy makes a wallet to help us secure our Bitcoin. THANK YOU because I secure with cold card. Guy makes profit from free and open source Bitcoin which is someone else’s creation and it is all good. Guy then makes clock…someone else makes profit from copying his clock because it is a fork of the clock and he sells it cheaper. THEN all of a sudden this free and open source shhhh is no longer cool???? You are funny NVK. Calm down man, or should I use your teams phrases? “The free market will decide.” It sounds hypocritical to me. NO? And for god sakes stop pretending that a “minority fork” is synonymous with hard fork. They are different and you know it. You also know that minority fork is alarming for those that don’t know the difference. #bitcoin #btclock #runbip110
I have to agree with you on that. I guess I’m not into the minutia of the case. Name impersonation, or design of clock?
That’s your long term solution? Just stay on v29? I see why the pedo stuff put you off but can you see why they said that? Bitcoin is being attacked. Is that clear to you?
I don’t think it’s just numb skulls. I take that personally. How about Jeff booth. Is he an idiot too?
Saylor on the other hand? Great Bitcoin contributer? I thought we were the ones that were solely relying on name calling. Guess not.
What profound technical argument convinced you? All I've heard from Core is "you can't stop all spam so why bother lol ur dumb" and I've asked several core devs directly. I'm pretty sure Jeff can understand this level of complexity and why it's retarded.
He was in the past. Something happened to him and currently he is one of the bad actors. Many masks fell off. Currently the Coretards hate Bitcoin node runners, especially Bitcoin Knots and BIP-110. They also facilitate shitcoins and scams like Citrea and Naka and many more.
Ratchet down the rhetoric, stop assuming bad faith on the part of every individual under the Core banner, go back to the discussion as adults
I think it was their shitty way of backing down. You can go into bitcoin.conf and change "datacarriersize=83" and its the same as before.
True, not a consensus change. No soft fork or speedy trial needed. But it’s still messed up to change the policy and remove the option for nodes to set their own data carrier limit.
I am not a new bitcoiner. - I can acknowledge that BIP110 is unfortunate. - I am certain that core needs a disciplinary response to an unforgivable way of handling the clearly controversial datacarriersize change. - Running older version of core is not sustainable in the long run and implicitly proves distrust to the core anyway - Considering BIP110 from a code standpoint - and not from the unfortunate "forced" nature of the softfork proposal - I dont recognize, (from a technical point of view) how BIP110 makes bitcoin WORSE money. - I do however recognize how 100kb datacarriersize makes bitcoin worse money - I dont care about programmable money enough that I would in any way jeopardize bitcoin as borinh actual money. So - with no ad hominem attacks at all - and with a constructive attitude - I can acknowledge that it's a SUPER tough debate with good arguments on both sides. How do I neglect the non-negotiable fact that 1. I have built distrust to Core and thus 2. need to run SOMETHING else 3. I technically dont disagree with knots + bip110 4. Disagree with forcing a minority softfork because its dangerous to the credibility of the bitcoin experiment Open to suggestions 🙏
Humans are tribal, specially in fear. Tribalism makes humans use their brains to justify aggression. Aggression taken to an extreme is war. War is stupid. Civilization is love for what we have achieved. Let’s keep building, being fucking respectful and strongly disagreeing with whatever we feel like it.
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Sun of the Moon 22 hours ago
The most sensical response in this entire thread and one of the best arguments in the entire Core vs Knots debate I have heard. 👊