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GM great to see that development
Sounds like they're going to introduce shitcoins soon, right?
Fuck Proton, just fuck it. I see Proton, I walk right past.
Can somebody send me an invite?
Hard to see such a large company not bending over to big gov. It certainly is a big target.
You sure it's a legit team?
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Anyone have an invite code???
I'd love to give this a spin.
Not your servers, not your country, not your data.
Proton is based in Switzerland, a socialist country, which hosts and is friendly to all the ultra evil institutions. (The UN, WEF, WHO, etc.) Using their services makes it legally easier for 3 letters to grab your data, plus they hand over people's data all the time. Proton is not as secure as everyone thinks.
I'll keep my private data services in the USA, self-hostrd by me, thank you.
Obligated to comply.
🤙🏻
> A socialist country
This made me lol.
Do you not believe their encryption is legit? What data would they be handing over if it's all encrypted at rest?
Looking forward to their integration of Nostr DMs into Proton Mail.
Onward 🫡
So you host your own email server?
That's cool
Doesn’t seem like you can connect it to your own node. Do they have access to your xpub and other sensitive data?
why does it need email?
People will be able to send bitcoin to protonmail email addresses 👀 Protonmail is winning
Can someone explain to me why this is good? Sounds like another custodial wallet.
At the very least, keep your email provider in your own country.
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TLDR: potentially expands adoption the right way.
There are over 100 million proton accounts. For comparison, there are around 10 million bitcoin addresses with more than $1000 worth of btc. This wallet exposes many tech savvy and privacy focused individuals with an easy to use custodial wallet. Also, sends BTC by email. LFG
because it doesn't have Nostr 🙃
Wasn't expecting this gift.
Proton se ha convertido en una de mis compañías favoritas 🤙🏻
is proton email address becoming lightning address? not clear if that is blockchain only...
MASSIVE
Seems like a game changer.
STAY HUMBLE AND STACK ZAPS
Bring them to Nostr 👌🏻🤙🏻
This potentially solves so many inheritance problems unsolved today. I’m curious on this one…
I like Proton. I'm a paid user. But in the back of my mind I always wonder if its a honeypot.
How is the centralized proton mail thingy not a honeypot for gullible people who understand that they have something to hide but don't understand that centralized services can't help them?
There is over 6000 wallets out there. Do we really need this one? Why exactly?
Yeah, go figure ...
View quoted note →A centralized or closed source decentralized tool can't provide protection against state actors. Proton is - willingly or not - a honey pot.
Many do but email is doomed anyway as the other end of every communication is usually gmail.
But they want to add shitcoins to this wallet later on.
THIS IS THE WAY 🫂🧡🤙WEN LIGHTNING? ⚡⚡⚡
They did essentially say it would be due to user demand, i.e., the free market. If your a bitcoin maxi, on a long enough time horizon, you understand the other shit coins just go away.
The Proton Mail Plus subscription is only about $3 a month, well worth it
That 2 year sub for under $90 is 🤌
yup
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what about self-hosted email providers?
Affiliate link me in your proton acquisitions nostriches
View quoted note →when lightning node in proton drive?
when proton drive on linux?
Do they?
Great to hear that.
No Lightning support yet, afaik.
Just onchain.
It's self custodial.
They have accepted bitcoin for years…
Lots of talk about privacy and freedom, but then ZERO support for Monero.
There is ZERO privacy with bitcoin, you all know that.
Wow, this one came out of left field. I was a proud Proton customer, now a proud and very excited one!!
Is there an invite link?
Hook me up with early access, please?
Whirlpool!? Do my eyes deceive me?
I think my proton subscription was the first thing I‘ve spent bitcoin for. Very cool that they are doing this 🤓
This is a big deal. Haven't tested yet but I plan to. Happy to see a company like Proton jumping into the Bitcoin wallet space.
View quoted note →love to see it!
Great work buds
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Forgive the pedantry, but wouldn’t it not be fully self-custodial if you are giving or storing your keys with another party? If they can sign transactions for you they can also sign transactions to steal from you
Aren’t you automatically doxxed to them, in some way, by connecting your Proton mail account to this?
🔥 I'm on the list 🫡
Esto es un paso enorme 🫡👏👏
I guess they don't have access to the wallet keys in any way.
But I've not checked the source code.
I fucking love proton
awesome to see!
いいね
Wow!
didn’t know they were so chill
Hell yeah
Gotta check it out seer!
NICE
I recently learned about BIP-352 "silent payments" which kind of remind me of adding Monero-esque protection to Bitcoin transactions, but no mention of that either lol
Let’s go
awesome
Thank you! In what ways is this a safer way to hold my bitcoin? Well, my satoshis, for now.
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Checking it out 🤙
cudos shooter!
Yes and KYC bitcoin too. Any other doubts?
LFG!!!
There is already no privacy when using bitcoin in the first place.
Kind of ironic seeing a blog post advocating for freedom and privacy, complaining they were chased by governments and PayPal to then pretend that Monero doesn't exist.
Way too suspicious.
You don't.
Folks around here programmed a wallet based on nostr addresses over the weekend.
Somehow it took Proton years to remember about this feature, and not even clear at all why one would use it rather than a private coin like Monero.
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It is a soft lie. They can always provide a different version of the website that captures your unlocking passwords when your IP address is interesting to governments.
Even messages shared here privately are more private than Proton.
For some reason the blog post from Proton speaks highly about their persecution for wanting private emails and then they proceed to ignore private money like Monero.
Very sus.
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„FOCUSED AND DELIBERATE” 👏
may we pay for the Vpn with bitcoin lighting already
@ODELL?
Next Cybermonday offer might consider getting some of their products after reading this. Good stuff
They've sent opposed statements regarding shitcoins then.
We'll see how it evolves.
Oh nice!
Bullish on protonmail, bullish on freedom tech!
Thank you for participation,
@ODELL! PV 🫂
thepurpose
Are you interested in Proton Wallet early access?
I have limited invites to share.
Just leave a reply, send me a DM or contact me through
@npub1exv2...d828 (connect URL in my profile) and I'll provide you one of my invites.
If you want to make sure you get an invite from me even if demand is higher than my supply, write a little bit about your usage intention or use the word "humble" in your message. Then I know you read to the end of this note, at least. 😁
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Specially the step of asking for an email to join 👍🏻
I couldn’t be prouder as a Proton user / supporter
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Very sus indeed 🤔🧐
Because you can send sats to an email address which has Proton Wallet enabled.
No address reuse, gpg signed btc address by your gpg private key but probably exposing the bitcoin addresses or in the worst case even the xpub to
@Proton.
Proton
Guide to using Bitcoin via Email | Proton
Send and receive bitcoin easily and privately with just an email address using Bitcoin via Email, a new feature in Proton Wallet.
Credits for this go to
@Seth For Privacy. PV 🫂
You received an invite already, right? Couldn't invite you a second time. 😁
Uhhh ohh. Thank you for correcting me, providing a source url and sorry for my misinformation.
Sorry to Ruben for dropping you.
I had no idea who to give credit until you had me look it up 🤝 thanks for being on nostr
This is not entirely true and I belive you know that already.
Bitcoin provides pseudo-anonymitiy and if you're on the receiving end, you can maintain privacy by never reusing your pubkeys.
But I get what you mean, probably. There is not much sender privacy by default.
Damn
Really cool
Good to know🤌🏻
so many crazy announcements this week 🗽
Awesome 😎🤙
Thanks 🙏
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The drones on Reddit are having kittens over this announcement as expected...
Concur with this
There is a solution that assures privacy and freedom. It is used widely on the streets since years and it is NOT bitcoin.
At this moment the only ones still promoting BTC are 1) maxis because of speculation, 2) naive people that know nothing else and 3) government-compromissed entities. Very sus from protonmail.
Everyone else minimally informed has zero problems or worries with monero, transactions and holdings are simply private beyond doubt.
Congratulations! I am just wondering why you did not support Monero by default if Proton is Privacy by default?
Yes, I get your point I think. Appreciating the privacy which Monero offers comes with tradeoffs some don't want to take while holding the Monero (me included). On the other hand in some use cases I used Monero myself. However from my understanding right now, I do not want to hold a significant value in Monero.
If you wouldn't hold today a significant value in Monero, you also wouldn't hold a significant value in bitcoin ten years ago.
I'm writing this as someone who actually mined bitcoin using only CPUs back in 2009. If you are in crypto for the sake of privacy and freedom, this is what we should be supporting rather than casino virtual coins.
Is proton the company that upon request gave EU prosecutors email data of their users ? If so, they can go to hell
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this is the closest you ppl have gotten to onboarding me. wow.
Is it Open Source? Do you have any financial connection (not suggesting you do, just confirming you don't)
WEF puppets on their board, just saying...
They are on mastodon but not nostr yet??
Yeah, using email to prove you won't use it for spam is old tech based on centralization, controlled and surveilled.
I will be more impressed when they pull off proof using nostr web of trust.
Those doing the surveillance want an identity touch point, and if you host your email service then it can be gotten from your domain registration (even if it is hidden, there is a fiat transaction to buy it).
A workaround is to buy a domain with bitcoin from njal.la .
If you need an email to register a proton email, they say it is only for spam protection and not stored. Then how do they know when an email is already used? It could be tested against a Merkel tree but how do we know if they implemented it that way or are just lying?
Got a name?
It is open source but you can't see what they have running on the backend.
Yes
Meanwhile they joined Nostr
@Proton WalletWhat did the
@Proton Wallet team say about using LNURL Lightning Address matching the protonmail address
@ODELL ? Seems like a natural fit
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