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Open source or bust
Will we ever live in a world where 95%+ is open source? 🤔
doubt it but we are trending in the right direction
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We might be already.
Silicon Valley's dirty little secret is they build everything on top of open source software.
I thought not everything was good for Bitcoin?
This is a political matter. Whoever persuades and perseveres wins. There is something to be won; otherwise, nobody would be fighting. Relying on people to “take agency” is a losing proposition. Authority and brand matters, that’s why most people run Core.
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Why are you trying to mute the debate? Sus. Awareness is key to making the decision which code to run. It’s important to know that Core is corrupted.
true but i assumed he meant user facing
i am pretty sure most end users will not use freedom tools, a minority will prioritize it, and that is my focus, but would be great to be wrong
not trying to mute, learn to read, run what you want
> this is a political matter
nope, its not protocol consensus
> most people run core
99% of people do not run any bitcoin software
Tired of this debate?
Read a short breakdown below:
View article →Quote: “fighting with people over what software they run is mostly unproductive”. -ODELL …. Sus. Debate is healthy.
there was a bit of debate early on
now its mostly cancel culture mob behavior and appeals to emotion
like you responding to my objective post by calling into question my character
With AI/LLMs lots of software will be (re)written. Trending in the right direction. 🚀
True! Currently using my own personal Nostr Client to reply to you now. I am also using it to hop into bitch@ conversations. lol
Debate is always healthy. The fact you think that’s not the case is sus. The fact you think that that saying “debate is always healthy” is, and I quote ODELL: “cancel culture mob behavior”, is also sus. Plus you’re overly defensive, which is thirdly sus.
im not your enemy even if you want to make me one
say whatever you want, run whatever you want, do whatever you want
Really? 80% of the network running on a software that potentially could kill BTC?
The percentage of nodes running Bitcoin Knots is steadily increasing by the month. These node operators are fighting against the corruption of the bitcoin protocol.
protocol consensus is not the threshold for something pertaining to the shared order of the Bitcoin network/community. Debates over spam, filters, and mempool policy are by definition political.
People that don’t run bitcoin software are not network participants. Most network participants run Core.
#OpenSource ✊
i do not think relaxed tx relay defaults in core will kill bitcoin but i do think node operators should have more choices
How would it kill Bitcoin?
The increase on knots adoption is a clear sign that Core devs can't run over us. To be fair, I will expect more of you and other main influencers demand answers. I don't see a serious debate or at least a serious technical explanation on what they are going go perpetrate. Fee estimation? Block propagation? Oh please.
Assuming you know how to
> the increase on knots adoption is a clear sign that Core devs can't run over us
never could
Exactly 👏 freedom means choice, same reason Bitcoin works, no permission needed.
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Yes. But it's also why BTC can be forked to infinity. It is NOT a store of value, just a currency.
... and never wanted either, I'd add.
I think your premise is correct, but in the real world, running software that has the very real potential to kill the p2p layer of bitcoin. i think that is worth fighting over, don't you?
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Learn to love yourself so that you can learn to love others.
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run bitcoin knots
A lot of people are naturally followers.
They have a hard time making decisions on their own.
Public arguments that they can read through will help those people to make the right decision.
When you argue about core vs knots or something similar it's not about convincing the person you are arguing with, it's about convincing the people who read the argument later.
There wouldn't be any fighting if **_anyone_** on the Core side could explain the changes and the reasoning clearly. I've been reading the exchanges here for days and even the people I view as friends have not been able to put together an argument that sounded remotely cogent. I've directly asked for this from devs and they didn't respond, instead continuing to respond in an increasingly hateful way to other people. Is a clear explanation really that much of an ask? Why does the knots side sound **_a million times_** better thought out, if its not actually better thought out?
Shut up jew
the argument by core maintainers is these transactions are being confirmed already by submitting them directly to large mining pools
this presumably gives those pools an advantage over small miners and means that the average node runner will not have accurate fee estimation since they do not see all transactions before they are mined
i do not think relaxed tx relay defaults in core will “kill the p2p layer of bitcoin” but i do think node operators should have more choices
+1 C++2 .i .e etc. "ITz GIT/\/ exciting uP/\/here" HARDcore bass/tard🎶
Thank you! This is new information.
Yeah and don't use level state propaganda spreading child porn fear unto bitcoin core runners like me. That is actually anti marketing for Knots lol 🤣
So many twitter bitcoin influencers push the agenda in a weird manner.
Like Mr.Odell said - run what you want and turn off ideology.
"Yay let's all be free and loving and not care what anyone else does cos we're all free and loving and that's the whole point". Ummmm no.
He knows that.
"Run the software you want" is a red herring. The issue is Bitcoin developers changing / degrading the code to fundamentally change Bitcoin.
Thank you for this explanation. Been looking for a coherent answer for days lol
Not sure if that’s a good reason to get rid of the limit…
Give this guy a minute, its good :
Remember the protest rule : for every one person speaking up, there's 100k more people who feel the same who aren't speaking up.
So what’s the solution? Run the software you want
No. It's run the software that doesn't destroy the value proposition of bitcoin.
That is the whole point indeed 🔥
