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Looks like Tesla and Einstein missed the "low IQ vegan" memo. Nikola Tesla gradually moved toward vegetarianism over the course of his life and was vegetarian in his later years. "It is certainly preferable to raise vegetables, and I think therefore that vegetarianism is a commendable departure from the established barbarous habit." — Nikola Tesla Tesla also wrote: "To stop the ruthless slaughter of animals, which must be destructive to our morals, and to divert our energies and resources from animal husbandry, would be of immense benefit." Albert Einstein became largely vegetarian near the end of his life due to health concerns and long-standing ethical reservations about eating animals. "It is my view that a vegetarian manner of living, by its purely physical effect on the human temperament, would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind." — Albert Einstein He also wrote: "I have always eaten animal flesh with a somewhat guilty conscience." And they're hardly alone. Pythagoras, Leonardo da Vinci, Leo Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, Peter Singer, and many others have advocated vegetarian or vegan diets. Far too many to cover in a comment. Personally, I don't think it takes much imagination to suppose that if Tesla or Einstein were alive today and saw the atrocities of modern factory farming, they would be even more critical of it—going vegan. For my part, I avoid animal byproducts for a number of reasons. Health is one. The suffering involved in factory farming is another. If I knew animals were genuinely being cared for and treated well, I wouldn't have the same objection to things like dairy. Dairy can be beneficial in moderation. #IKITAO
Why is it cool to say such things? Ironically, the same cult-like idiocy shown by some vegans is reflected in your comment, as it is in many bitcoiners who act as if they're perfect in all matters of life just because they're correct about money. You can do better.
Eating, whatever, is not only the act of energy intake and nutrition. It's a process which is in most cases doesn't linked to the reflection and awareness what is eaten. This has nothing do do with IQ levels. It's awareness. Eat whatever you want, but realize what you do. Written by a healthy, lucky vegetarian.
You’re citing *vegetarians*, not *vegans*. Do you have any examples of high IQ vegans? Also, if those men had been raised as vegan from early childhood do you think they would have been as smart? Regardless, your argument makes no sense. Everyone agrees factory farming is bad, but that doesn’t make eating meat and animal byproducts bad. You can make conscious choices about where you source your food from. Arguing that eating meat is bad because factory farming is bad is like saying “owning dogs is bad because puppy mills are bad”, or “using wood is bad because clear-cutting is bad”, or “using electricity is bad because coal is bad”, or “wearing clothes is bad because fast fashion is bad”… or, to bring it back to food, “eating vegetables is bad because monoculture farming is bad”. You are conflating the method of production with the thing itself. From another perspective, what about meat that you hunt yourself? I grew up eating venison. If you don’t kill a shitload of deer every year, they get overpopulated and get diseases. They also fuck up local ecology and cause all sorts of problems you might not expect (e.g. increased erosion, which destroys habitats of other animals and has huge ripple effects). Hunting helps manage deer population and also provides meat for hunters to eat. Is it bad to hunt and eat what you kill, while respecting the animal and using every part of it you can?
Surely you’re not suggesting Einstein was as big brained as a bitcoin podcaster!?!?!?
A friend of mine who I have been knowing for more than 2 decades recently switched from vegetarian to meat. He used to be some kind of half hippie half I can live of almost nothing street musician survivor back when we shared our student apartment. He now has 3 kids.
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grey 1 month ago
They’re malnourished
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Etto 1 month ago
Facts: Animal foods are nutritionally complete. Many humans lack the genetic adaptations to convert the plant forms of vitamins (betacarotin, k1, d2) to their animal counterparts (retinol, k2, d3). For humans with growing brains sufficient amounts of EPA&DHA are necessary for cognitive development. Conversion from ALA to EPA&DHA is sometimes very inefficient, depending on genetic factors. Opinion: Feeding yourself a diet without animal products without genetic testing and proper care is irresponsible. Should not be forced onto persons under care.
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BlackBlot 1 month ago
Yes if need be. Wouldnt eat you though
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Liberty NH 1 month ago
You are probably in a serious echo chamber if you have never met any intelligent vegans. Many Bitcoiners on this app are vegan either quietly or explicitly.
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Liberty NH 1 month ago
These must be the high IQ meat-eating individuals Walker is talking about.
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Etto 1 month ago
In reality a "well balanced plant-based diet" containing all essential nutrients does not exists. Could you elaborate on a meal plan for a nutritionally complete plant based day?
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Etto 1 month ago
The genetic aspect is just a data point, that proves that many humans lack the genetic adaptations to thrive on a plant based diet. It catapults plant-based diets to wishful-thinking-land. I understand your moral virtues and I understand you prefer animal wellbeing over your own wellbeing. It is noble and somewhat suicidal. Your text contains a straw man, a hasty generalization, false equivalence, a missing causal link and an ethical reductio ad absurdum. That is quite the achievement considering how short your reply is 👸
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Etto 1 month ago
Love the part about pregnant or breastfeeding vegans and the sources that are listed for the vitamins and fatty acids there. It is your absolute right to choose a diet you see fit for yourself. I will happily defend that right. Just don't force it onto your babies/children. They cannot yet fully understand the tradeoff.
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Etto 1 month ago
"While very few people are completely unable to convert beta-carotene to retinol, up to 45-60% of the population are considered "low responders" who have a significantly reduced ability to do so." You can look this up for every plant-nutrient>>>animal-nutrient pair and see for yourself. You can then calculate the amount of people who will realistically live well on a plant based diet. It is less than half of all the people.
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mr_proffician 1 month ago
I find it to be the other way round. If you think we need to eat animals to thrive then you are low knowledge If you think it's okay to eat animals for pleasure then you're low IQ.