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tanel _@tanel.org 2 years ago
in your opinion, what made onboarding on twitter so good, and what specific parts of onboarding in existing nostr clients (take Damus for example play the biggest role in people having second thoughts and drop off? is it complexity in language, are there too many steps to join, too little, or something missing completely?
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jack 2 years ago
we had terrible onboarding. so bad that we created a manual "suggested users" list, which was effectively king-making. the verified badge followed. all centralized, manual, inherently biased decisions. search is the only thing that really scaled, and really mattered. more investment in that would have dramatically changed things for the better at Twitter. this is still the case. the only thing the centralized internet (google, reddit, Facebook, twitter) solved was the discovery problem. solving that for decentralized protocols is a massive win for the free internet. View quoted note →
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tanel _@tanel.org 2 years ago
try to find a specific note of mine mentioning word X from date Y only using damus, snort, coracle or amethyst • don’t use any external search clients
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pukka pukka@primal.net 2 years ago
Yeah doesn’t work. I’m no dev so forgive the dumb questions. I’m guessing you’re referring to not using nostr.band Why can’t that be used for search? What’s holding it back?
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tanel _@tanel.org 2 years ago
analogy: i’m saying that you wouldn’t go on google to find something that you’d want to find on twitter as you’re using it
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rabble rabble@nos.social 2 years ago
And the search came from a company, Summize, which had a real time social search engine which they launched using twitter data. It really made twitter work. Buying summize was one of the critical early decisions at twitter which has been forgotten but was so important.
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jack 2 years ago
Indeed. All possible due to the open api. Again, it’s nostr’s advantage right now. Every other service is closing down access unfortunately.
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cuban cuban@primal.net 2 years ago
Outside of using NOSTR.band this simple thing is so hard to dom should be a part of every client imo
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corndalorian corndalorian@primal.net 2 years ago
Why no external clients? That’s like every website trying to build their own crappy search engine when they could just plug into Google search.
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Alan Siefert 2 years ago
I wonder if nostr search should still be centralized for its efficiency advantages, but completely open source so that anyone could spin up an alternative at any time.
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