Single devs with shoestring budgets are criticized for not having everything ready for everyone. I guess the solution is just to shove everyone into the KYC’d VC funded one with lots of employees. Pretty sad that this is where nostr is headed. I guess this is jacks vision for nostr now so it must be done. The biggest threat to nostr is a handful of influencers who control the funding and can pick the winners. Purple is my attempt at breaking free from this, but I feel like it’s already a losing battle.

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nobody 1 year ago
sounds a little defeatist and whiny .... profits not what they want as mining is less successful would be my guess. very bait and switch behavior.
Scenario1) Overall design could be part of it. Imagine using the typical nostr client over tor from Russia, too much bandwidth it would be loading forever. I think he probably just doesn't have time to mess around with nostr in its current form. Outboxes, bandwidth saving proxies, relay discovery. These things will be ready the next time he tries (in a while because didn't he just have a baby?) Scenario2) I can't imagine him being in Russia and being allowed to use social media freely anyway, even via tor (duh his account says it's him, they absolutely know who and where he is at all times) .. so that means it's probably his job to use it and he's under heavy Russian influence and can only do what they tell him. So they told him not to promote nostr or etc. Am I the only one thinking like this? Why does it seem like everyone assumes he's in a safe spot and has freedom? He already gave all that up to try to help the USA citizens. It's gone. I'm sure he would rather forget the internet exists at this point. Whatever reason he is on X, it's only to an extent that Russia allows him.
I would not give up. I would let the arrogant techbros deal with the long term consequences of undermining a freedom movement.
Not losing. You will get there. Not a lot of projects will make it through the great filter. I hope yours does. Its a good one and you are one of the good guys. Keep grindin homie.
Single devs aren’t criticized. I do remember when I joined nostr a year ago you have been pushing updates every week and taking feedbacks. Now I see for some reason diss motivation.
listen, can’t blame China for not offering grace and goodwill to constirbute, but painting Satan as the public enemy when quite certain the wrong one, only pride oils to make right of a wrong. Gotta have standards for your self man. Rejected. What else do you want from me? image
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frphank 1 year ago
Ah well if you lose and are sad, you can curl up in your bed and cuddle your Bitcoins that'll console you.
(❓) Yes. That note is so misguided to me. You don’t deserve *any* of that. You know better than to take it personally.💋🦁❤️ From what I can decipher, he’s just frustrated. But he needs to be patient and take the high road when it comes to criticism. I know, easier said than done. But still, I hope he keeps building and creating because Damus is a beautiful gift to humanity. The world just doesn’t know it yet. Damus is my favorite. For me, Damus is nostr. I wouldn’t be here without it.🫂💜
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the axiom 1 year ago
don't worry, primal will die for lack of funding in less than a year, like every startup
youre about to piss me off
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Single devs with shoestring budgets are criticized for not having everything ready for everyone. I guess the solution is just to shove everyone into the KYC’d VC funded one with lots of employees. Pretty sad that this is where nostr is headed. I guess this is jacks vision for nostr now so it must be done. The biggest threat to nostr is a handful of influencers who control the funding and can pick the winners. Purple is my attempt at breaking free from this, but I feel like it’s already a losing battle.
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I honestly believe that we are all trying to do the right thing here, but I agree that the distribution of opensats grants could be better. @ODELL or @Gigi how feasible would it be to allow donations to be made to either the general opensats fund or an opensats project of our choosing? Do you think that would help @jb55
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Single devs with shoestring budgets are criticized for not having everything ready for everyone. I guess the solution is just to shove everyone into the KYC’d VC funded one with lots of employees. Pretty sad that this is where nostr is headed. I guess this is jacks vision for nostr now so it must be done. The biggest threat to nostr is a handful of influencers who control the funding and can pick the winners. Purple is my attempt at breaking free from this, but I feel like it’s already a losing battle.
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i have the hardware i am willing to donate to run a free public relay. I had captnjack try to assist me in setting it up but I gave up when I hit a road block a few days in. I am somewhere between a beginner and intermediate Linux CLI guy. If someone can guide me through it command by command or spin up an ISO that i can simply deploy I would be happy to donate my hardware for this purpose and would commit to running it as long as I can. I have the necessary hardware and internet infrastructure an up time. Happy to give back.
@jb55 Jack's observation is on point. Keep in mind he has been doing this for decades now, not to mention creating a social media site from scratch. You are taking this totally out of context. He was simply stating fact, that the masses do NOT care about Bitcoin, sats/zaps, privacy, free speech, decentralization, etc. etc. etc. Although he did state he wishes this wasn't so. If Nostr wants to attract the masses and RETAIN users, you are going to have to accept this reality, and try appealing to their interests/wants/needs. Providing "diverse" content/opinions/functionality. Clearly the foundation has been established here on Nostr, however, do not ignore the real reasons why people are on social media. Nothing wrong with EVOLVING and admitting why the masses use social media and/or the web.
It is critical to everyone, not just Nostr, that you and your fellow independents, succeed. In any environment, there will others with greater strengths, that pose threats and competition. As for the white noise, it is just that. We have all been programmed to be greedy. We want it all yesterday. And of course none us want to put in the effort to get that great free stuff. Hell! We got gold stars for turning up at school! The people adopting, testing, playing, even breaking your apps are your advocates, the ones to tune into. Sure the way they communicate can sometimes be improved. Keep sharing what you are doing too. When others know the great strides you have to take, to make simple things work ... maybe they will send more than love and Zaps 😀 You never know who is watching, listening and ready to support a great idea. Keep strong, beleive in what you do. Many a great idea started with numerous set backs. And those of us that share in your dream, will have your back.
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pam 1 year ago
Hey Will, An alternative option is to look at equity funding, by selling your shares to your users, instead of a VC. This is called equity crowdfunding. Say you need to raise $1M in exchange for 20% . Reach out to 100 users who can put in $10k each for a fraction of your company. You will create a new company for this. * Company A remains as Damus - funded by grants. Damus is a people attracting magnet. 100% open source. No Ads. No VCs. * Company B - Here, you can create a separate entity purely for the business/productivity suite or a valuable “other stuff” that the market needs. Single/dual class share. This will have equity investors, starting with the 100 angels for seed investment. **Under company B** 1. Open source at least 50% , until you can build the branding and market penetration. It will eventually become 100% open source 2. Outsource marketing and design as separate cluster entities (like how design is independent - this could work the same for PR, for marketing). Its a modular technique - what it does is, it removes a lot of operating expenses esp at early stages and your gross will be closer to net profit - this is a massive investor attraction. 3. Work with your 100 investors - for every person your investor brings into your productivity suite, investors earn sales commission on top of the investment returns. Early investors who are your users and fans of Damus will be very interested in making this business profitable. Imagine having 100 sales arms if you get 100 investors. 4. You need to work on branding, strategy and growth. After a while, maybe in a year, whether it is patented or open source will become irrelevant (99% of the time) once branding picks up. This is the same everywhere, all the time. 5. The $1M fund is your seed funds. Company B can eventually fund raise Series A through VCs if you want to, because you will have strong revenue. Your 100 investors can sell their shares at higher value or remain. Most importantly, Damus is standalone - undisturbed - no center point of failure. Maybe Damus purple can have exclusive access to certain things that other people can’t have in company B etc That's one possibility There are many ways and many solutions, let your creativity go wild. You are a smart guy. You can even create some form of smart contract for these types of investment, gather investor input etc, it will be another new innovation for you. The options are endless. Problems = solutions = opportunity. ** Some thoughts : 1. No matter what you build, make sure the market wants it. You can spend shit loads of effort building it and it will go nowhere if market doesn't want it. 2. Identify target market - where are you going to find the first 100 users for your new innovation ? First 1000 users? 3. Open source entrepreneurship is diff from traditional entrepreneurship. If you can make open source entrepreneurship work successfully, then you would be a pioneer who has set up an open source entrepreneurship network. ** On a personal note, 1. Passive aggressiveness is a put off. Channel your good people energy in attracting people, not dividing them 2. @jack is the good guy. He welcomed you to his home, he funded the initiative, he has supported you from the get go, he has been here lifting everyone up. I hope you didn't burn the bridge entirely and can still make amends. 3. You can take the pisser on Miljan over his VC funding. Someone else can take a pisser on you on your first mover advantage. Negativity breeds negativity. OR - You can build solutions that can solve your problems and everyone else's problems ** On an additional note I did a brief cap table for you . If you raise $1M for 20%, your company post valuation would be 5M, assuming 1.5 years is a good enough time to develop, sell, get user feedback, rinse and repeat until product is a bit stable. And once you raise in 1.5 years at series A, your 100 investors could see a 9x return. I hope this helps you move forward and on a positive path. Good luck
> Passive aggressiveness is a put off. Channel your good people energy in attracting people, not dividing them thats nice, i’m not going to self censor my true feelings on certain topics. If people make up some straw man interpretation of me because of that I can’t help it. if this burns bridges then oh well. I am only here to contribute to a censorship free communication network for the future that doesn’t repeat all the mistakes of the past. What people think of me is not interesting or important. If people find me so offputting that its affecting the success of nostr then I will go work on something else.
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pam 1 year ago
let's save that role for better qualified people. I'll go with the title "some random crazy girl with random crazy ideas" =)
Sounds like me too. Rando crazy thinking outside the box … sometimes way out… rarely in target … but always more rando crazy to try again.