with Catallax, I am primarily focusing on decentralization and an open protocol for this kind of bounty work. All the other options are centralized platforms (lightning bounties, etc.). Nostr zaps are an extremely ergonomic solution that allows this protocol to be simple while still somewhat strong on privacy and easy to implement for a wide range of users. I am attempting to author a simple, base protocol that _others_ will extend for their own purposes. If someone wants to use the Catallax event Kinds but use Monero for payment, I'm happy for them! Ideally, the protocol wouldn't bake-in lightning or any other payment approach. as long as a payment receipt can be proven in the event, that's all that's required. Once I finish the first reference implementation I will have to take a look at loosening the lightning integration (if appropriate/possible), but for now it seems like the most friction-free path forward to get something in to the world.

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Scoundrel 7 months ago
Fair enough. However since it seems to me that you have put a lot of genuine thought and good effort into your project, I feel obligated to tell you that I don't see the point. Darknet marketplaces and crypto invoice services already do a lot of work to enable secure and anonymous commerce, and I can't see how Nostr would enable anything better. In fact, every single Nostr project I've seen so far suffers from the same fundamental flaw. Nostr is a solution looking for a problem, and none of the people developing for Nostr actually have a problem they need Nostr to solve. It's bizarre to me. It all seems so disengenuous and artificial. I just want to understand why people are trying so hard. Is everybody here a scounrel who has been kicked out of 109 communities and they had no choice but to find one where they control their own account? The only hypothesis that makes sense to me is that they are all people trying to earn money without creating value by artificially inflating how popular and useful Bitcoin appears with a million useless little projects using it. That would explain a lot, but I think my time is better spent trying to find alternative explanations. Do you have any insight?
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Super Testnet 7 months ago
The things that I like nostr for are these: - If something can work on nostr, that means it can work on a real p2p backend too. But nostr is easier. So if I'm doing a proof of concept, or a demo, or a hackathon project, building it on top of nostr makes more sense than doing the laborious task of making it actually p2p. - Sometimes I build systems where you interact with peers, and it's not critical for you to be online *all* the time, but your messages should stick around for at least a few days if you *go* offline. E.g. an asynchronous trading platform could work like this: you list an offer, people can post a purchase order while you are offline, and then you can come back in a few days to finish up. Nostr, unlike "real" p2p system, has built in message caching. I don't consider it reliable for long term periods, but it's good enough if you post your messages to multiple relays and don't need them to last more than a week or so. For this kind of protocol, nostr seems like a *better* fit than a real p2p backend. - It has started to work well as a social media platform for me. I check it about once per say and post messages here a few times per week, and I meet people on here and make plans for work and pleasure. It's not as good as twitter for this, but nonetheless, at least for me, it has finally become useful for its original social media purposes.