Amen to this! 🔥🙌🏻 Even more so important now in these last days, as even in the “free countries” laws are being passed that classify certain Christian positions as hate speech

Christians aren't an ethnicity. 😝 But yes.

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They are. They're even a race of The Baptized.

Free speech is in a race to the bottom. Except here.

I can't agree with that, but isn't important. 😁

I actually got censored for "hate speech" on Twitter because I quoted Genesis about the whole trans thing. They be like, hold up, that's a Bible quote.

I don’t remember them mentioning that.

They mention that men and women are two different things.

Smh, that’s the inversion of truth in real time. Ironically if you had shared an OF page or clapped for the trans stuff, your post wouldn’t have been censored. Probably would have been boosted.

On which album?

Not that Genesis. 😝🤣🤣🤣

Have you seen the lyrics to Willow Farm?!?

This right here

No. I have not.

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Fascinating. Thanks!

My parents in law have lived in one of the countries coloured orange for over 10 years. They are white / British / non practicing catholic. Other than access to alcohol being more difficult than in a ‘western’ country they have never felt any kind of persecution. The previous ruler was also very pro British.

Great GM!

but but no they are not 🤣 the ideological foundation of feminism is precisely the assertion that man = woman, and logically that means there is no meaning or distinction between them so how can you have gender dysphoria when there is no such thing as a gender. checkmate wokesters

one of the most well known songs by Portishead contains a quote from The Epistle of Jude "Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved, the blackness of darkness forever" that's also hate speech against these "wandering stars" gee i wonder who Jude was talking about? also, lol. "been talkin to jesus" by phil collins is a classic biblical style polemic against fake ass religion people. oh yeah there was a hilarious story in the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers called "telefundaligionism" these millennials don't even know Genesis was Phil Collins (hah, who is a spook, apparently) and and Peter Gabriel (who is probably also a spook, just like most of the psychedelic/progressive rockers from the 60s and 70s)

Fundamentalist Christians are just as bad as fundamentalist Muslims. Could easily make a flipped map that shows the opposite of this in terms of pursecution of Muslims/Islamophobia. Seriously though, Ethiopia is a majority Christian country. And Egypt has a massive and highly influintial Christian minority. This reads more like a Catholic vs Orthidox debate that interfaith issue. 🤨

You say yourself, that they are not Christians. Also, that a nation or it's residents doesn't persecute everyone does not mean it persecutes no one.

Saint Paul was a gender abolitionist Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

1) Don't be silly. 2) It, unfortunately, doesn't require Muslims to be in the majority of the entire country, for them to persecute Christians. Just look at Boko Haram. Islam has been in Ethiopia since Mohammed, and the east is majority Muslim. There is sectarian fighting within the Orthodox sects, but that doesn't mean there is no Muslim persecution. 3) Islam has been spreading in all of these countries and Christians are often forced to leave. Egypt is a rare, recent counter-example, moving from place 25/50 to place 40/50 on the persecution list, after the Muslim Brotherhood government was overthrown. (Reminder to everyone that Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.)

I'm sorry, but islamaphobia isn't a real psychological diagnosis. It just means that you don't agree with some or all of Islam's tenents. This should not be pathologized. Categorizing anyone who disagrees with your philosophy as being mentally ill or criminal, is why we are now here, fighting censorship. If I thought Islam were correct, I would be Muslim. But I do not, so I am not. I think any religion that doesn't fully ascribe to the Nicene Creed is a false religion, and I have never pretended otherwise or been afraid to say so, openly. My God is an awesome god. I am not working so hard, for free, for years, in order to help Muslims. I am doing it to help my own people. But I understand that the freedoms of conscience, association, and assembly are universal goods and inalienable human rights, and we are designing the systems to be universally applicable and hope they inspire similar projects. Most Muslims are not my enemies. I can differentiate between particularly rabid and violent members of a particualar movement and individual people. Not all Muslims are Boko Haram, just as not all atheists are Nazis. And, at any rate, Christians are called to love their enemies, so lucky the man who can call us enemies. I think everyone should have all of the information they need to make their own choices about what they believe or do not believe. They are free to make the wrong choice. I won't stop them, I will fight anyone who tries to stop them, and I will champion their right to be wrong. May the best ideas win.

Yes, Christians are all part of a new people and their souls are of equal worth in the eyes of Christ. But, this is also St. Paul: > A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing — if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. (1 Timothy 2:11–15) > As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to enquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. (1 Corinthians 14:33–35) > Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. (Ephesians 5:22–24)

Funny, as a card-carrying Christian I don't *feel* persecuted...

The people of Iran are good to Christians, but we have an Islamic dictatorship that restricts Christians. They are not allowed to preach Christianity and are always under surveillance.

I am aware. I have had colleagues from Iran, who were Christians and Zoroastrians. I think the latter actually have it harder, but the government definitely isn't keen on Bible thumpers.

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But Paul was human and humans are fallible and can be wrong or i interpret revelation wrong. Take a position on any issue and a verse can be found to "support" it. Yay separation of church and state

Reminder... This is just government propaganda so you dislike the middle east via religion while most of those regions have traditional family values that actually align with the nostr/ bitcoin community.... The west wants to change that to profit, similar to what they've done to the united states already.

But I thought Russia was pure evil?! Also, they’re seriously missing Ukraine circa 2022 onwards on that list. It’s an Eastern Orthodox crackdown of epic proportions under Zelensky.

LOL last I checked, no Muslims persecuted Jesus or his disciples, instead praise him and have him as one of their religious leaders, like Muhammad. "Fundamental Islam" is equivalent to "fundamental Christianity" and if you don't know that back story, I have a whole dark ages and Crusade to tell you about. I'm not Muslim, or Abrahamic, but it's pretty clear out of all three which is the closest to Abrahamic teachings.

You do realise that Moses aka Moosa is from Shem aka Sudan/Ethiopia. The fact that God explicitly tells Moses to take the arc of the covenant to Ethiopia for safe keeping, where it remains to this day. Also, no western countries colonised Ethiopia, the Italians tried and failed and it's mainly due to the Christian West fearing God's retribution. So, I mean

> "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; --1 Peter 2:9–10

Christians are called a race, a nation, and God's people. Perhaps that's where @Laeserin 🇻🇦 gets "ethnicity"? A pastor of mine once said that since Christians are a new creation we are a new species: Homo Christian (that has nothing to do with being ghey, btw)

We're a new race of immortal beings, following the traditions and laws in the Word and with a defined person as leader. Feel like that's somehow important. Enough to be an ethnicity.

That's a fairly bad translation in my understanding. But sure. Ok. If you want to read it like that, yes. A race.

Brah, you don't know what you don't know. As I've said before, we are being robbed by the state of Israel rn, the Holy Land is under attack and being, literally, taken over.

Would it help if I said something mean? I don’t want to particularly but if it makes you feel better.

How would you translate race differently? All translations are a gloss; I suppose you can take your pick: γένος (genos) Strong: G1085 GK: G1169 offspring, progeny, Acts 17:28, 29; family, kindred, lineage, Acts 7:13, et al.; race, nation, people, Mk. 7:26; Acts 4:36, et al.; kind, sort, species, Mt. 13:47, et al. from

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I would lean towards lineage. Race, unfortunately, is relatively poisoned these days.

Yes, please do - I'm curious to find out what it feels like to be persecuted.

I'm indifferent to that.

yes, because of the raping bitch ass ruling class inseminating millions of innocent plebs for their amusement. nothing has changed since the days of Noah, and it's still the same lineages doing it. also, i very agree, lineage. anyone from a branch of their tree that came via rape is of course not necessarily brainwashed into becoming a piece of shit tho. but the legacy of the damage is everywhere visible.

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Hey you, you there with the crucifix on a necklace, stop it you ninny!

it's a central point in Icke's work, the bloodlines. they have to maintain it, that's why there has often been the retards like GWB and various other ones in history with diseases of inbreeding.

they are the seed of the nephilim, from hybrid with the "iberomarussian" (northwest africa, southern spain) who are taller, paler skin, bigger brains, and the first level hybrids with plain homo sapiens were the "giants" of genesis and other stories (eg, the epic of gilgamesh etc). that pride and envy and greed is part of their cult creed. pretty much, the genetic markers of it are pale skin and lactose tolerance. something like 70% or more of the human population is partly from their genetics. being able to drink milk is a huge advantage, it increases stature and strength.

btw, the indians talked about Krishna and Indra, these guys were from this race of humans. the reason why the hindus venerate cows so much is because their milk is the most powerful food available to humans who have the lactose tolerance switch disabled. see, they are mostly brown, too, so you can't tell by skin color necessarily. the pale skin does give an advantage as well, people with pale skin absorb more energy from the sun, especially red and green spectra.

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christians and jews talk a lot about the meme of shepherding and its importance, and the burnt offerings referred to frequently especially in genesis actually literally means bbq offered to visitors. the civilization of the "angels" basically invented herding especially cattle, but i think it probably started with goats and sheep, because they would have had to develop much greater stature and strength to domesticate the wild cattle. wild cows are hella dangerous, just think of the whole meme of the cowboy and the lariat to catch them by their horns and tether them to a tree or other stiff and strong anchor in the ground. in wild herds, there is a lot more bulls than in domesticated herds, we have to castrate them while they are young or they become uncontrollable. the neutered males and the females are both quite placid and easy to control, nervous, even.

No, the nephilim were not very humanlike. The Raphaim where the sons and daughters of the Nephilim in the "daughters of man" that were much more humanoid.

they were still technically human as in breedable. it would be like a great dane, normal humans are like chihuahua up to alsatian. the difference in size is almost double from there up. that's why they called them giants. it is hybrid vigor that made them so dangerous. they could throw around normal humans like we can throw around 2 year old children. and imagine how much food they needed for such a big body, i mean like, one cow would last a nephilim like a week, where it would feed a whole family for a season of normal modern humans. out of all the crazy sounding stories, the ones about giants are the least crazy. i mean, it's not like gulliver's travels but a man at 12 feet tall is scary as fuck. even if he's a skinny weakling he's still gonna be impossible to defeat without luck and skill. they were already becoming very rare by the time of David, most likely goliath was only like 10 foot tall. if you are a psycho bitch and good at strategy and you got guys like that, it would be trivial to dominate ordinary homo sapiens. even neanderthals were a problem for sapiens. but these guys were something else. i might be misremembering, but i think they actually found bones of an extraordinarily tall human a little while back. the angel people were not so ridiculous, more like 7-8 foot tall.

actually, i think that was at the center of why the non-fallen angels were so against it. firstly, they just dominated and threatened the human women they "took as wives" which is disgusting by itself, but the progeny were dangerous and probably cultivated to be violent pets by the fallen angels. i'm guessing that probably in most cases they gained physique but didn't especially gain so much in intelligence. or at least, they dominated them while they were still relatively small. probably also, the women often died in childbirth as well because of them being substantially larger, i'd be guessing that probably they were typically in the range of the biggest infants you see today, which can cause a lot of complications in birth. so there is a lot of reasons why it would be objectionable, most of them to do with the mindset, but probably some degree of physical issues as well.

Giants are certainly easy enough to prove as plausible. And yes, I would agree with your assessment about most of them, but if you dig deeper, the first generations birthed things like the Titans and many of the little g gods, and then the demigods where the Rapheim. (I can never spell that correctly.) That mostly tracks with most mythologies I am aware of, like Tiemat birthing all sorts of monsters and being called something akin to the "Mother of all demons."

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i suspect that this was the elaboration/perversion of the story of this woman actually. i think Tiamat is mentioned in there as being one of the forms people attributed to her. this was much later. the greeks called her Aphrodite and earlier versions were more true to what she was about. Her name was Basileia. evil people pervert everything they touch. i am quite sure that "monsters" is a sufficent way to describe a brutish 12 foot tall man who eats people.

It was all bad, for sure. If you read some of the extra bibilical stuff, it lines up with a lot of the oldest versions of mythologies about "gods" taking human wives in exchange for teaching the leaders of the tribes of the time various things, but interestingly, all the things that they offered were directly related to mitigating the parts of the curse that God placed on everything. I hadn't realized that until I heard someone mention that on a podcast. That was kind of a big lightbulb moment for me. It ties in with everything that all the SPDC (Satanic Pedo Death Cult) are doing, too.

ah yeah, the teaching. Gobeckli Tepe was one such training camp. i think also stonehenge.

you really need to read The Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya. it explains all of this and more, and relates it to ancient stories, myths and archaeological stuff that hints at this. i figured at first you maybe had read it but the idea of trading women to spawn these super-soldiers in exchange for their protection (and for sure in the early times they would have still had some of their fancy weapons in addition to these giants), they would teach the skills of manipulation and warfare, and of course part of that cost would have been women and babies to murder for their blood rituals and cannibalism. sometimes the cross-breeds would not have been giants, and those would probably have at some point continued to interbreed and lose the obvious features but would have all the conditioning to condition their children and maintain their power. at some point the pure fallen angel stock dwindled out but they continued their inbreeding program to keep some remnant of their genetics. keep in mind that the non-fallen ones stuck around until 5000 years ago, as evidenced by mention of them in many parts of the old testament, dating back to around 4000BC - this is probably because they needed to continue fighting their fallen kin until there was no more pure bloods left. then it was safe for them to leave, because without their pure genetics they didn't have the overwhelming capacities and their diluted descendants were then trying to rebuild their global empire and it took them all of that time to get to where we are now. this is why they are obsessed with transhumanism and genetic and machine augmentation. they can't get their genetics back. they were exterminated, for good reason. this also means that when the angels return, they aren't really going to be dealing with enemies that have even half the capacity to fight back. i'm sure they will try, and probable have been, i mean, that's probably what Roswell was about. i think that through mechanisms involving what you might call magic, they still retain some power but they are earthbound and haven't got the industrial capacity to get off the planet and that has been actively suppressed. the angels are just waiting for the right time - when whoever they don't take away with them ends up obliterated by the coming global disaster. the angels survived already something like 6 of these cycles, and 12000 years ago their society split in two with teh war in heaven and they had to figure out a plan to completely wipe out their enemies. that's why the wording of many of the prophetic texts of the bible are so grandiose and aggressive. what we suffer with now is probably a fraction of what they were capable of when they were pure breeds.

It's on my list, which is way too long... 😅

it's a very important one. i hope Chris Horlacher has in mind to write a follow up. i'm sure he's busy doing exactly that. i follow his telegram group and he and others are continuing to research and write more about it, that

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is another who is on the same thread.

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