what makes someone be on the side of those who threaten to destroy other nations?

I am confused by your statement. Are you suggesting I'm on Iran's side, because I'm not on anybody's side, except for the side of innocent people (Israelis and Iranians both) who have had no part in these governments and their evil. I'm just trying to predict based on sources.

you act like the iranian regime openly threatening u.s an israel and trying to achieve nukes as if it’s not anyone’s problem

I don't think we get to be the good guys anymore.

Bullshit, you only care because they are a key energy supplier to BRICs and are trading oil without using USD.

Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program. And your a soft-cock mush-mind if you believe the obvious propaganda that they do. And even if they had, they would never use the nuke for the same reason that no country ever uses a nuke. Think about it... if you have the capacity, which I doubt. If they got a nuke it would be for deterrance, to deter precisely what just fucking happened. Despite where I fall ideologically and rationally (not on anybody's side) I have emotions. And I've watched Israel for decades now and they have become the most insane psychopathic murdering malicious nasty assholes I've ever seen in my life. So yes I want to see them get their asses kicked. Somebody needs to give Netanyahu a real good hiding. They fucking deserve it and I have NO DOUBT the evidence is mountainous. That doesn't mean I support how Iran runs their country, but I was kinda hoping to see Iran whip Israel's ass.

Totally agree with this assessment. The ball is really in Russia/China's court now. They'll have a discussion with Iran and decide what to do in response.

Either way, it’s a major blow to Iran’s nuclear program. And let’s not overlook the royalist factions among the younger generation — they’re just waiting for the right moment to rip the country apart from within.

Glad to see you are still alive. Nobody knows how to stop what is happening. And my honest predictions are dire.

Whether they intervene is a big question, but I think it is unlikely because they will win against the US certainly if they continue the wait-them-out strategy, but they might not win if they militarily engage right now. Still, huge setback for them to lose such a great ally.... and yes Iran will be destroyed now that the US is involved... could be a long and brutal battle and many people will say America lost due to the long expensive war (but the insiders will wil of course), but Iran will lose too, big time.

I keep getting people attempting to get me to pick sides. Feels like a minor loss of hummanity. Do that with sport or something. Side of "stop it" doesn't seem to resonate

Spoiler: we never were

But just like in sports, we pick sides not because we truly care about who wins, but because it is natural and easier and more fun to root for one side. I try to keep my emotions out of my rational argumentation, and I try not to predict what I'm emotionally hoping for. On most things I'm even emotionally neutral. For example, US immigrants vs ICE - I truly do not care emotionally either way; Russia vs Ukraine I'm a bit more emotionally on Russia's side, but logically I'm on Ukraine's side, which is very hard for me to manage. But Israel vs _anybody_ and I'm on _anybody_'s side right now. Somebody! Anybody!

stay safe, some maga retards in my country are cheering for it, hoping more people will die, it sadly reality.

I'm sorry @UNLICENSED MONEY TRANSMITTER this is probably the meanest post I've ever made on nostr. I don't know what came over me.

Let me put a more rational answer here. Some time ago, a woman in Iran was stoned for not wearing a head dress. People in the West think that is how Iran rolls. The truth is many women don't wear anything on their heads, and it was news only because it was wildly out of the ordinary. But the West uses shit like that to make you think Iran is bad. Don't confuse what some people in Iran say about wiping Israel off the map or the US Great Satan... with what the diplomatic official positions of Iran are. There are always crazy people saying extreme things, and they don't represent Iran. Iran has always been very logical and reasonable in it's diplomatic actions and foreign relations. They only recently threatened to attack American bases IF America attacked them. I'm not aware of any other threats against the US from Iran (other than the half-cocked statements of individuals which are all over the map, you must understand). Also people think Iran wants to wipe out the Jews. But there are more than 9,000 jews living peacefully in Iran and they are not only respected, they have a say in government. Iran and it's proxies have clearly expressed why Israel has been attacked by it's proxies for decades now. and that is in support of autonomy for the Palestinians. And they have proven they aren't lying. Every time there is a ceasefire with Hamas, all the proxies of Iran stop too. Everytime the ceasefire breaks, the proxies resume. They are enacting a cost to Israel's genocide of Palestinians so that hopefully Israel stops doing it. They haven't stopped, they are instead choosing to pay the cost. Now you can technically call that terrorism. That is correct. Using violence or threats of it to try to change a government's policy is the definition of terrorism. But then you must admit that Israel and the US are using terrorism as much or more than Iran's proxies are. Now you might think I'm anti-semetic. But almost all the people I listen to on social media (X, YouTube) are Jews. Go figure. There is quite a logical difference between being against the policies and actions of the state of Israel as lead by Netanyahu and his Likud party, and hating on Jewish people. That being said, all believers in God are suspect to me. Jews, Christians, Muslims, I find them all dangerous due to the fact that they show themselves highly deluded. Delusions can make people do illogical things, and illogical people are unpredictable. That makes them dangerous.

Well said.

Yes, I suppose the 'realist' theory I'm going by predicts what the US will seek to do (get control of smaller nations and attack larger enemies with them), but not whether it will succeed with that strategy. Did it succeed with Ukraine +sactions? Probably not. Russia retooled and is perhaps even stronger now, making ammunition far faster, shifted its trade to more reliable partners, etc. This idea of using Iran to attack China is kind-of a wild thought I never had until this moment. I've never heard anybody suggest it. I'm just drawing from theory and speculating, maybe a bit wildly.

Indeed, Syria has been able to change its regime, and Iran is clearly unbalanced in power, so if the US joins in, it will be possible to make it pro-American "again". However, I was really surprised that the "two weeks" was a trick. It seems that, in his mind, the latest attack was also part of the negotiation process with no declaration of war and it's still ongoing, but how far will such an attitude work in the world?

Thanks a lot. 🫂 WTF, cheering for what?

Thanks. It's simple: it's unstoppable.

The "two weeks" was a trick. The latest attack was not part of a negotiation process. There has been no negotiation process. All of it is a ruse. His post saying "any retaliation would be met by force far greater" is just a way to trick them into not retaliating. The US will continue to attack irrespective of what Iran does. The statements of Trump are never a reflection of reality or truth or sincerity. They are always a form of manipulation. He has very good skills in this department, and I'm amazed how effective it is... that is, I'm amazed how vulnerable most people's minds are to it. His personality and everything he says is an act.

Very sad

Hope you come to your senses one day

This.

oh yeah, it's a deal! i missed it.

Iran doesn't exist anymore. All their allies were overthrown and all their leaders have been assassinated except Khamenei. With US and Israel using Iran air space freely it is a matter of time before Khamenei is assassinated. after that the remaining leadership will scramble to make deals with the west where they will help with the transition of power in exchange for having their lives spared.

Yeah I tend to agree. I'm thinking that Iran's best move at this point is probably to just keep smashing Israel. According to Trump this is all about nuclear weapons, and according to Trump he just destroyed their capacity to produce nuclear weapons. So there should be no reason for any further US involvement unless their true intention was nothing to do with nuclear weapons and everything to do with Israel and the SCO.

100% agree

Its the same power structure behind the scenes, both parties in gov, controlled and dictated by the highest level banking cartels who control this policy to control and maintain the illusion of the USD. Libya, Iraq, Afgh, Syria, Iran, etc. all the operations we dont know about.

Gradual war of attrition with slow bombing of Israel. They know the population and economy will exhaust quickly. However Israel and US will attempt regime change and probably get it.

Well in Iran like in every dictatorship things are tolerated but if you say something against the government you end up dead because of some regulation you broke. You all have short memories. They hanged people with cranes in public places. There was a revolution years ago and all the participants just disappeared. That government has to go. Forever

it isn't so much a blow to anything specific as to the notion that Iran is a power in the first place only days ago @Mike Dilger ☑️ called Iran a "Grizzly Bear" and it is already looking like just a slightly bigger Gaza or Lebanon basically Trump called Iran's bluff. Iran kept warning of "consequences" as Israel was genociding Palestinians and people like @Mike Dilger ☑️ amplified that message because they wanted to help deter US aggression in the region ... but Trump doesn't answer to his voters - he answers to Netanyahu and the Epstein Tapes - and Trump knew that Iran will cuck ... the damage to Iran's image is irreparable. even fanboys like @Mike Dilger ☑️ will never use words like "Grizzly Bear" to describe it again. regime change becomes much easier when the regime does not command any respect anymore. sad it has come to this but it was inevitable.

Are you living in Iran? Then take down the government you don't like. Otherwise don't tell other people how to govern themselves. Have some respect.

Iran can't trust what the US tells them. They can't trust the statement by Trump that it was a one-and-done and the matter is settled. By not attacking US assets as they threatened they would do, their threats become more hollow. Yet overall I think they won't attack US assets because it gains them little and costs them lots, when they could instead just keep on attacking Israel. I expected more attacks on Israel by now. Maybe Israel actually has already severely degraded their missile capability, even though it was distributed and buried. I know anti-Zionist sources are saying Iran has some strategy to firing fewer missiles but I'm not sure I believe them, sounds like "hopium" to me. I think Iran may have just been decimated on all fronts. Maybe they still have capacity and are holding back for some reason, but I'm not confident at all. We are living in the world where the greatest power is a bully and ignores all laws, international laws and it's own laws, and cynically frames things as if it is a good guy and the other parties defected... while Iran was negotiating not bombing, while Iran has been under IAEA inspections, and it is Israel that has not signed the NPT. It is perverse. The UK in the security council meeting called on Iran to execute restraint. The Russian Federation called it out: "It is very strange to be participating in this theatre of the absurd, this cynical theatre. We had the representative of the UK calling on Iran, on IRAN! to exercise restraint, a country which was subjected to an unprovoked attack, which had its nuclear sites bombed, as if it were Iran and not Israel and the U.S. that were escalating the situation." He also says of the US: "We will be hearing cynical statements about readiness to return to the negotiating table as if there were no strike using heavy payload bombs on Iran." and as he says this, the US delegate takes a deep breath, picks up her phone and starts texting.

I'm told the people in Iran are highly awake to what the US is trying to do. Also, people don't revolt against their government after foreign powers just attacked them. Further, Trump even admitted he is attempting regime change. I don't think the US will get regime change outside of surrender. That might happen. But not by revolution.

Such a large war, propaganda machine, offense industry, and police state as exists in Israel, require some violence and enemies to do to justify themselves. It's the same in #USSA, #China, #India, #Russia, and so on through a long list of militant gangsterments. Even the #UK and #EU gangsterments have remnants of that phenomenon. The Tom Woods Show: Ep. 2656 Scott Horton on Iran and Israel Episode webpage: Media file:

Why don't you take down the US government that steals 40% of what you earn, surveils the hell out of you and lies to you constantly. Take care of your own house.

You don't Iive in Iran either so shut up if you don't know. Iranians people I knew and I know told me directly they want an end to this dictatorship. Think about your life man. Not everybody spent their lives the same way and know the same stuff.

Your generation is a mess. Your life is so short and your information just bullshit propaganda that you think you know all. I am not in the US and my taxes are 11%. 40% taxes are for ignorant people. Freedom is open to everybody. If you are there poor and angry is just because you have no idea about the rules of this world.

UK (and others) operates under the #DARVO principle. It is short-term effective, but the leaders have become horribly unpopular.

DARVO - Wikipedia

Hey thanks, I learned a new thing.

What if I told you they just attacked a US assets in the region?

Trump thanks Tehran for weak response after Qatar attack – as it happened | Israel | The Guardian

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The thing that's strange to me is why they waited so long. They have been sabre-rattling for war with Iran since George W. Bush was in office. If I recall correctly, we were supposed to get involved there by about 2007. But the last 2 years of Bush in office, he did basically nothing and dished the problem off to his successors. What just happened is almost exactly the scenario that was discussed back in the 2000s: Bunker busters to eliminate the facilities at Natanz, et al. So, I'm not sure what the hold up was? America apparently had the exact capabilities then, and Iran in that time period gained no additional abilities to deter such an attack. It seems like America was waiting for something but I'm not really sure what. There are theories though that Israel forced this because popular support for Israel is dying in the USA with the decline of the Boomers and Evangelical Christianity (more recent Evangelicals aren't as pro-Israel and actually want to focus on the American economy, illegal immigration, etc). So it's now or never from the perspective of Israel. But the delay still is puzzling. Wouldn't it just have been better, from a strategic perspective, to do it back then?

not puzzling at all - they were waiting for Syria to fall they didn't want to attack Iran until i was isolated

they knew that the entire middle east hates Israel so their job was to avoid having Israel attacked by all its neighbors at the same time so they embarked on a long game of toppling those countries one by one leaving the biggest one ( Iran ) for last when everybody else has been toppled Assad in Syria was allied with Putin and Iran and that presented a problem but they were just recently able to get him to flee to Russia then Trump recently did a tour of ME and got assurance from all the Arab states that they would cooperate even though Israel was masacring Palestinians there were also pager attacks and other assassinations in Lebanon recently - another major ally of Iran they were working to weaken Iran's support in the region to a level they were comfortable with once they were ready they didn't really wait at all - Rubio said the attack was decided on in March - Trump simply lied about negotiations to confuse Iran

Originally I believe the plan was to attack Iran first - that was in the papers they had mapped out back then. At some point they must have decided that Syria (along with other regimes in the Middle East that they didn't trust like Libya) had to fall first. But I think they didn't expect the Assad regime to last more than a decade after a color revolution... The events leading up to Assad's fall last year do suggest that they were sick of waiting and wanted to fast track the process. I also think the 2008 crash and related events might have delayed things for a while too, because the Arab Spring wasn't put into motion until 2011.

right - they had an overall vision for the Middle East but they had to adjust the strategy based on developments on the ground also don't forget that Russia is a key piece of the puzzle in the Middle East as well because for example Iranian foreign minister is Moscow right now for talks with Putin and of course it seems Assad has been preparing to escape to Russia for a long time before he actually did so. by the time he moved to Russia he already had businesses there apparently etc. so the developments in Ukraine would also have to be figured into the timeline for the Middle East due to Syria and Iran's cooperation with Russia. Syria used Russian surface to air missiles and Russia is using Iranian drones and of course Russia was heavily involved in Iran's nuclear program and Israel downed an entire jumbo jet full of Russian Nuclear scientists etc. Every time something major like that happens they have to re-evaluate their strategy but the vision stays the same.

You don't even know me and you think you know my generation and some collectivist ageist bullshit defines me? Are you counting everything you pay? Do you think nothing is wrong with the ruling class rapacious stealing from the people? Just what the hell is it you believe? That if you get yours then it doesn't matter at all how needlessly fucked up the system is? Does it occur to you that you and everyone could have vastly more than you do now if it wasn't so fucked up? Wouldn't that be worth thinking on?

I rejected society for real before even people spoke about this issue. I am not rich but I am free to move and do what I want. Just that. People are too self focused to stay together and help plus there is a lot of propaganda that most people follow like religion. One thing is sure. Life was way easier many years ago.