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Until people speak as clear as the stats are nothing will get fixed
Refreshing to hear an actual accurate take
If he was arrested over & over for violent crimes isn't it the fault of the authorities/courts etc that he was out in public and able to murder someone rather than the fact he is black? Thing is black people are not the only racial group who commit violent crimes.
That’s a follow
You said, “Filters = censorship,” and argued that OP_RETURN filters don’t work because some spammers slip through, so just remove them.
Now you call for filtering people out of society.
By your own logic, that’s censorship too.
Maybe start small and undo the censorship of my Bitcoin (hard)Core GitHub ban @esomore.
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rare take from Todd
In real life people have identities. They do not on the Bitcoin chain. And that's intentional.
You got a couple points but damn dude imprisoned for life a significant % of the population is crazy (yet again that’s where we currently are)
why not just prison reform that actually rehabilitates these people instead of institutionalizing them for life
forgot what country it was but i watched a documentary it was a super cold European country where 0.5% is a repeat offender because of the work they do to rehabilitate these people while they’re incarcerated
If you had a terrarium of 100 insects and 13 of those were doing the majority of the killing of other insects and destroying the terrarium what would you do? say well the other 87 insects do some damage as well?
Don’t be obtuse use your brain and stop insulting yourself
Bitcoin transactions don’t have identities; that’s the point of neutrality.
But you’re the one who said filters = censorship and argued they should be removed since some spammers slip through.
By that same logic, filtering people in society is censorship, too. You can’t use “filters = censorship” as a weapon in Bitcoin debates, and you can drop it when convenient.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? You should be ashamed. What a stupid thing to say
Yeah the Nordic countries don't treat imprisonment as 100% punishment. For many prisoners it is actually beneficial for a country to educate & teach skills to them rather than have them back in the streets to commit more crimes. Obviously this doesn't apply to hardened violent criminals. But the prison aystem in rhe US is big business.
This is spot on. The only issue I have is with the graph. "US Hispanic" is meaningless, Hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity. If you dig into it and split it into the right races, then you'll see black even higher.
why? isn't this statistics? 🤔
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Around 39% of the U.S. violent crime prison population is black. The rate of arrest for violent crimes is also 38% black. Might it be the US has a crime problem and not a particular black problem?
This case's offender clearly stood out many times but the stats matching tells me that there is no racial bias to keep black offenders out of prison.
Lastly, prison for life is unnecessarily expensive. Violent crime peaks at a young age and is barely committed by people aged 45 or older. To keep people locked away after 55 should really be reserved for actual murderers or otherwise very extreme cases.
So what are your policy suggestions? Pre-crime put away all blacks? Should we also put away all men that are also drastically over-represented in violent crime?
A thing I could get behind is to put away all gang members that are actually more over-represented among violent offenders than blacks or young men.
Lastly, the whole "put them away" thing is also very popular in the US already, so they are doing something wrong but it's certainly not that they don't put away enough people.
I posted this on Twitter too, almost word for word:
https://x.com/peterktodd/status/1964512929916866781
20k views.
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No it's not. It's misrepresentation of data, cherry picking, mistaking correlation for causation and a whole bunch of other intentional tricks to fit his racist political agenda
Ask Peter for example why he doesn't include any statistics on the murder rate by Israelis in Gaza.
Yet, as bad as these numbers are, they pale in comparison to the murder rate by Israelis on citizens in Gaza.
~3000/100k/year is a very conservative estimate and to make it worse, most victims are women and children
Israel is justifiably killing Gazans in self defense. And they're going way above and beyond to avoid killing Gazan "civilians". Which has resulted in the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of IDF soldiers.
This is no different than complaining that white Ukrainians are violent because they're killing or seriously wounding about 1,000 Russians a day.
He's correct, grow up
Yea, focusing of the race wont solve the issue but only creates more. 70% of black Americans are born to a single mother. Add to that with majority of them born and raised in dense urban environments (were gang culture is prominent). It creates conditions to be violent. Social policies focused on assisting in education and guidance on youth without fathers rather then focusing on race will help everyone more.
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It's a fact that black males of any age are much more violent than white males. You're not denying that fact.
The policy suggestion is very simple: life sentences or execution for violent criminals. The black male who murdered Iryna had numerous prior violent convictions, including armed robbery. Had we executed him for that she would still be alive; his entire life was a negative value to society.
Of course, with about 10% of the black population having felony convictions for violent crime, that's a hell of a lot of people in jail for life or executed. But that's fine. They're are serious criminals and we damn well should remove them from society.
Stop coddling people who clearly are too stupid and violent to be a part of civilized society. There is zero reason to accept innocent woman getting murdered by worthless psychopaths who have been in and out of the prison system their entire life.
Now, concretely, a three strikes law is one way to implement this. A more clever way would be to make it probabilistic, so criminals have an incentive to cooperate with police. For example, a round of Russian roulette (1/6th chance of dying) per serious violent criminal conviction would be a good start.
We also should try to intercept these worthless, violent, individuals early in life. The young teen who repeatedly attacks his classmates in school for no reason should be institutionalized for life. Right now we give the benefit of the doubt to young offenders. The reality is we should be doing the opposite: the younger violence starts, the more likely it will be a lifelong unfixable problem. Again, this will disproportionately remove young black males from society. But that reflects their inherently high rates of violence.
We spent hundreds of years executing thieves and murderers to get a civilized society. Removing those impulses from the gene pool is what it takes.
Haha owned. More Jews and Ukrainians dead makes me smile
It's very different because you conveniently forget to mention the fact that these Russians are soldiers that occupy Ukrainian territory and the murdered Gazans are, even according to Israëls own biased statistics, >80% civilians, mostly women and children, on their own land (occupied by Israël)
Ffs, even the murder rate of babies alone in Gaza is higher than total murders in Charlotte that you're so selectively outraged about. Not to mention medics, journalists, aid workers...
I find your racism pretty sick and quite frankly unnecessary in this case. I agree that violent criminals should not be knowingly part of our society but your Russian roulette proposal ... should we make a game show out of this?
Re "It's a fact that black males of any age are much more violent than white males. You're not denying that fact.": No, I don't deny that but that says absolutely nothing about the individual black male. You making it about race is part of the problem as you push for segregation and a two-class punishment.
Should a violent criminal be punished? Yes! Should his skin color be taken into consideration? No!
Should we be tough on violent crime even though it hurts people of color disproportionally? Yeah! It will disproportionally hurt violent criminals and that's the point!
It’s time for Resegregation
#ResegregationNow
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Find me a single thing I've actually said that is _discriminatory_.
The facts are that blacks are significantly more violent than other races in the US. I'm not suggesting to treat them any differently. Rather the opposite: I'm suggesting that we enforce laws equally, and accept the inevitable consequences that a lot of black males (and some females) will be removed from society.
A huge stumbling block to enforcing laws in Western countries is that people cry racism when you do it.
Oh, call me legit surprised. Deleted Twitter a little over a year ago 😅
High crime rates in black population has nothing to do with the skin color but everything with absolute lack of upward mobility for certain layers of society. It's a social failure that spills out as crime. What you're suggesting is sweeping it under the rug when in a civilized society you try to create a growth environment.
I didn't do deep research into the topic but numbers that GPT5 gave me look like there is no systemic preferential treatment of blacks. You suggested more and stronger punishment. More death penalty, more life sentences. The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the world, so I'm not sure if that's what's missing. Also did you not mention preferential treatment of blacks in your prior notes - you simply stated that black males are the problem.
Dam he racist AF...
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This goes beyond race.
This murder came from a insane person.
America doesn’t have insane asylums, the insane walk free.
And to make things worse Democrats almost destroyed Police forces.
The US does not have the highest incarceration rate in the world:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
It's 4th, and the difference between the US and the next few dozen isn't that significant.
Also, you are assuming cause and effect. The US is a rich, well developed country with an unusually high black population due to slavery. The much simpler explanation is that the black population are much more criminally inclined. The fact that their average IQ is significantly less is explanation enough: criminality is closely tied to IQ.
Nonsense. Anyone with intelligence and work ethic can easily move upward in American society. I personally know so many people who have brought themselves out of poverty using the ample resources available.
Stop making excuses for evil.
https://www.thecgo.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/The-Impact-of-Economic-Opportunity-on-Criminal-Behavior.pdf
There is certainly a lack of peer reviewed papers to proof your point. I hope you know that IQ is also a defined test one can improve results by training for it. It is nothing genetically fixed in the IQ-test.
When I did ask Claude for high correlations of crime and murders, then claude lists the following:
> I personally know
Why not show statistics instead of anecdotal evidence.
Additionally does the map you shared showcase very clearly, that it is among the top incarceration rates worldwide. It is a well known thing in social science, that most prisons within the US lack models to focus on reintegration of prisoners. Prisons are rather criminal highschools, than helping those who need it the most to find a way to live a successful life, with a legal job and a house over the head.
I mean to most people it should be clear, that prisoners are some of the weakest link within society. They are not there for being very social, skilled and useful. So it is kind of obvious they need a lot of training in getting there in order to become a good neighbour after prison.
So it's the low IQ not the black skin? Why don't you propose to incarcerate the whole low IQ population instead of just the black portion?
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Claude answered:
Key socionomic factors correlated with lower murder rates:
Economic opportunity -> high correlation
Education access -> Strong correlation
Income inequality -> Direct negative correlation
Community investment -> Substantial preventive impact
Mental health support -> Significant preventife effect
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That's one paper analyzing extremely unusual conditions. And it's not even about IQ, which was my claim.
Your post at the top of the thread says "black".
It is your claim. Its on you, to show your claim is credible.
Survivorship bias
Nah. It’s time to just bring back the death penalty. The blacks that don’t belong can weed themselves out and those that do can stick around. That simple. Resegregation isn’t fair to blacks who do the right thing and is just an indefinite expense they shouldn’t have to pay for whites.
“Get right or go back to Africa. Keep acting like animals here and we’ll treat you like one.”
We have unending police’s for “education” and all that crap. Blacks, before desegregation and all this other “assistance” had a higher marriage retention rate than whites for a brief period.
The issue is welfare, snap, section 8 housing, no fault divorce, and feminism. All of these combine to disincentivize fathers in the home, working legitimate “on the books” jobs, and staying married. Then combine that with Hollywood shifting from soul music to gangster rap and mythologizing being a scumbag. With no real daddies in the home, gangsta rap guy and your local Afro-communist became the male role model for most black men.
Then we wonder why they act like Marxist thugs.
The solution is to DELETE ALL OF THE BULLSHIT to reincentivize doing the right thing like what blacks were doing 70 years ago.
We don’t need to 80% of the their population in jail. Keep them separate and the good ones can take care of the bad ones, or move to Liberia.
I said death penalty. Not jail. Segregation would be like an open air jail where we have to maintain all the separate infrastructure which would be an unfair tax burden on EVERYONE and an extra undeserved punishment for good blacks.
Just bring back the death penalty or forced expulsion to Liberia for violent offenders and traitors. Everyone else can work it out from there together.
Dummy me. You’re agreeing with me about death penalty. Duh. I still don’t think good blacks should have to babysit their idiots just because they share skin color, any more than a white should be responsible for his IQ80 methhead cousin. That just breeds resentment from demonstrably good people. Just execute or exile the bad apples and let the good ones be happy and at peace without their nutjob uncles/cousins/whatever ruining their lives and communities.
Death penalty, yes.
Race mixing, no.
We have a responsibility to the 80iq white methhead. That responsibility may be keeping them in jail, but it’s still our responsibility.
Whites have no responsibility for blacks, we’ve taken care of them long enough. It’s time to separate and their good ones can live in some sort of middle ground.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/briefing/the-myth-of-migrant-crime.html
To stay with facts. Not anecdotes. Since facts do not change by anecdotes. Not even when a story is very horrible or something like that.
Haha you defnitly watch too much Batman or something. I have a really hard time to take your note serious.
I hope you know, that a constitutional state should follow equality and proportionality when sentencing someone.
In addition, there are very good reasons why death penalty is not conform with human rights.
But probably you like a state which does ristrict your rights below the well consesed bare minimum of the human rights. Human rights are no high standard. Also is it very a realistic model, all reason based countries follow.
Denmark is known to have a very progressive and highly functional prison system.
Read some Sowell, should help you figure out why this won't work (as it never has in the past)
Denmark does exactly this even to mass murders like Breikevic, which murdered more than 100 people at once. It is not as if a humane system would be limited to very milde cases.
When you got time, check out this book:
Rutger Bregman - humankind
It is a real masterpiece. Shows what a fantastic species we are, based on hard facts. Not only anectotes.
Im not to familiar with the different American social policies that have been put in place. But if not done right, policies and there ripping effects can undermine eachother for sure. USA has a social rubber fire on its hands
I agree with policies counteracting and conflicting with each other. But “the point of a system is what it does”. The system didnt “fail” blacks… it deliberately broke the black family and indoctrinated them with race Marxism to turn them into weapons against us. We KNOW they could be better… they were in the past.
As for the rubber fire of excessive laws… check out my “sunset amendment”. I am done with “forever laws”. That includes the “great society” and “war on poverty” stuff that ruined the black family and a whole bunch of other stuff like the intelligence agencies and the national firearms act.
Racial separation is the answer. In fact, racial separation is necessary for human evolution to continue.
...and yes, the reason why I'm even writing this is I'm in Kyiv and anti-aircraft fire woke me up at 5am.
Hopefully no-one died tonight and made my stats out of date... But even then, if she had stayed in Kyiv and went to the shelters during air raids, she'd have been fine.
The problem is the black population. If not for them the US would actually be fairly low crime. Getting US (and western) politics to the point where we accept imprisoning, for life, a significant % of the black population is what it'll take to fix this.
Instead, that psychopath was arrested over and over again for violent crimes.
