Think about it like this. If you believe bitcoin is going to 2 million. That’s 32x away from where we are now. So multiply everything you’re spending in the present by 32 to figure out the true cost of things. That $20 lunch you had? That could have been a $640 dinner in the future. The reasonable 30k car you bought? That’s a million dollar super car your future self could have driven. The 100k downpayment you put on your home? That’s a 3.2 million dollar paid off home. The 5k international vacation you took last year? That was a 160k baller trip you could have taken later. Food for thought.

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BoomTown 1 year ago
I’ve been thinking like this for 4-years. Need that price rip to make theory into reality for those of us who went maxi this last cycle. At some point delayed gratification in pursuit starts to impact mental health.
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Kendy 1 year ago
However, we both know that inflation will greatly impact what a $3.2M home will look like in ≈10 years. Honda Civics could start at $120k
Time horizon matters though. Agree bitcoin gets to $2M but if it takes 15 years you may regret not taking the $5k vacation while your kids were young. Everything is a balancing act
I took my kids to Italy and it was a fantastic family vacation that they still talk about though years have passed. Agree not a necessity but it was money well spent for me
I think what they valued was spending time with you bro and being together as a family. That said I’m sure Italy is a nice backdrop if someone can afford it, but not a necessity.
I agree - not a necessity for all to go to Italy or drop $5k on a vacation. You should spend carefully and save wherever you can - in bitcoin. Just don’t deny yourself all of life’s pleasures because bitcoin going to $2M might take longer than we hope.
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BoomTown 1 year ago
Literally no more $$$ and any further DCAing is immaterial. Im fully ready to embrace the upcoming price rip with no regrets.
True, but you can’t buy back time and some memories are priceless. Foregoing consumption for too long has diminishing returns too, especially when that consumption is in the form of experiences with loved ones.
Umm, the the Bitcoin price then will also account for FIAT inflation so the $640 dinner then might not be exactly equal to the 20 dinner today.
A jet-ski in your 30's is worth more than a yacht in your 60's
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Think about it like this. If you believe bitcoin is going to 2 million. That’s 32x away from where we are now. So multiply everything you’re spending in the present by 32 to figure out the true cost of things. That $20 lunch you had? That could have been a $640 dinner in the future. The reasonable 30k car you bought? That’s a million dollar super car your future self could have driven. The 100k downpayment you put on your home? That’s a 3.2 million dollar paid off home. The 5k international vacation you took last year? That was a 160k baller trip you could have taken later. Food for thought.
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Damn. Literally just talked about this on the show this morning. I couldn't agree more. Do not spend money on things you do not NEED right now. Because if you're holding bitcoin (and we're correct), you will be able to buy it soon for a much lower price.
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Think about it like this. If you believe bitcoin is going to 2 million. That’s 32x away from where we are now. So multiply everything you’re spending in the present by 32 to figure out the true cost of things. That $20 lunch you had? That could have been a $640 dinner in the future. The reasonable 30k car you bought? That’s a million dollar super car your future self could have driven. The 100k downpayment you put on your home? That’s a 3.2 million dollar paid off home. The 5k international vacation you took last year? That was a 160k baller trip you could have taken later. Food for thought.
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Barkskin 1 year ago
I'm never to sure I'll be alive in the future, I 'm guessing I'll still be living to hit 'post' on this note, but maybe lunch might just cost $640 when the future is here and I'll be happy my past 20 doller in btc can still pay for my future lunch. Although I might just have a wagyu steak and some beluga caviar if I'm wrong😎
For the most part I agree with you. A humble childhood like you’re describing is what I experienced and it was wonderful.
That’s all so fiat bro I’m thinking in sats We must have different units of account 🤣 But I do see ur point if your living in fiat NGU land. Think about it like this That 3 million sats that your paying for rent this month That could buy you a 3 million sat house soon
I'll probably never forget the 1995 Volvo that I paid $30,000 for in 2016. Now you're telling me it really cost $960,000? Not gonna lie. Hurts a bit.
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free.man 1 year ago
precisely this is the shift in perspective that sound money creates
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Think about it like this. If you believe bitcoin is going to 2 million. That’s 32x away from where we are now. So multiply everything you’re spending in the present by 32 to figure out the true cost of things. That $20 lunch you had? That could have been a $640 dinner in the future. The reasonable 30k car you bought? That’s a million dollar super car your future self could have driven. The 100k downpayment you put on your home? That’s a 3.2 million dollar paid off home. The 5k international vacation you took last year? That was a 160k baller trip you could have taken later. Food for thought.
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You also don’t know if you’ll be on the earth long enough to see that happen. Your time is even scarcer than BTC. So make sure you create the memories with your family & loved ones when you need to. If that means spending some of your Bitcoin sooner rather than later - that’s ok too.
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Ulysses 21m 1 year ago
Too true. Everyone has to walk their own line between hodling/living and enjoying life.
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Xigash 1 year ago
yes this, but my gf is watching out , that we enjoy enough, greetings from Thailand haha
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Wigger 1 year ago
Such bearish comments in the replies 🐻
I'd like to add that this is not meant to say "don't spend anything! Save everything and never eat out, never buy fun stuff, never go on vacation!" and so on. Instead it's meant to make you be more conservative and delay gratification as long as you deem it reasonable, do I want to spend my money on cheap stuff now or be more patient and have better stuff later? Because humanity never stops producing more stuff, and Bitcoin will never grow it's capped supply, relative to that capped supply of Bitcoin units the ever growing supply of new stuff gets lower and lower in cost. This is what @npub15dql...lm5m meant by "It's going up forever Laura!" and what @Jeff Booth means when he talks about us living in a world of abundance where everything getting cheaper over time. But do not forget that while our Bitcoin value grows, we're constantly losing time on the slow march towards the end of our time among the living. We all have to balance whether the enjoyment we get from getting things earlier in our finite lives exceeds the greater value the finite Bitcoin spent on it will grow into. For example, I have spent the equivalent of about 0.15 ₿ on my collection of physical media since the end of 2023. But I'm spending far less than I would otherwise because I'm also spending a lot of my free time finding the best deals possible, I find it feels like a treasure hunt! Shopping at thrift stores, online eBay resellers for used copies, or sales direct from the manufacturers. This collection of physical media is more valuable to me than 0.15 ₿ is, because it's engineered fun for myself and my family and friends that I get to own and use without needing permission from anyone else, for the rest of my life. Maximize your enjoyment of life, Bitcoin is just the greatest tool to do so. Don't HODL forever, but be more conscious in how you spend your savings and future you will be grateful for it.
This framing is 100% on point. After hitting most of my super aggressive stacking goals, I have started to relax the reigns a bit and enjoy life more. I now have a cushion that I'm the future will be deemed as multi-generational wealth and that gives me a sense of confidence. I still live with a Bitcoin mentality, but realize that just holding forever and never utilizing that wealth is a fool's errand. Life is about the journey just as much as it's about taking care of the future version of yourself. Experiences are fleeting, but they change you forever. Share experiences with others, invest in yourself and keep stacking. This is the way.
Transactions one day secure the network. At that point we will all be more conscious of our spending. It needs to be done, but it will be far more strongly considered. The fiat mindset will be forcefully killed, and through that we can have true earned prosperity.
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basso 1 year ago
There’s value in a paid off home. True fuck you money includes a debt free home imo.