Knots. But you aren't interested in good faith discussions to find out what we want. Most everyday bitcoiners that have concerns want more node implementations, not less. Core loyalists are acting like they're a cornered animal lashing out at anyone who would question, criticize, or leave their side.

Both are centralized. period. Decentralization comes from the fact that I can choose wich one I want to run even if it's just from one guy, or my own implementation. The thing that matters is how many people review and have eyes on it and run it, because there is less risk. If you run a version just by one guy that almost no one uses you expose yourself to more risks.

I'll vote with my node, while you engagement farm.

One problem is that people like @hodlonaut BIP110 don't understand that open source software always leads to *apparent* centralization @Luke Dashjr made a pull request to Bitcoin Core just in January, to fix some issues with 29.x

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Thanks Luke! The point I'm making is that these are not distinct groups of engineers, working separately on isolated independent codebases, with no permission to contribute across projects. The reality is very different Stop thinking of this like it's Apple-vs-Microsoft or Android-vs-iOS. In open source, the barriers to switching to the better repository are much lower than you think If Core v30 was controversial among the devs that aren't already working on Knots, any one of them could trivially have forked it to have whatever change they wanted When anybody makes a pull request to one project that improves it, they can easily make the same PR to multiple projects, or a third party can copy and paste the change We have lots of great code, and lots of great engineers, now supercharged by AI. Once one repository earns the track record of accepting the best PRs, it naturally becomes the center of attention. It *appears* centralized, but it can trivially move to another repository if the other repository is better

The one that codes less user selectable options, not the one that codes more user selectable ones

No one “votes” with a node. (And that’s a good thing because if that were the case Bitcoin would be trivially Sybil-attacked!)

You know exactly what I mean, typical CORE whore.

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The optimal equilibrium is not at one extreme or the other.

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What are taco plebs 🌮

That has nothing to do with dev team centralization. Clearly the team that pushes to main is more centralized.

"Pleb" is a term that got popular some years back, largely represented by people like Hodlonaut, but not exclusively. Kinda means die hard bitcoiner who's not rich or technical, but is a real soldier. That type of thing. Taco Pleb was a chat group in same vein on telegram, with notable members like Deater Bob (another reference you may not get if you weren't on X a ton back in the day).

Never heard of the taco 🌮 reference 😆

Yeah, there's some history there I don't know in full. I think the full name is something like Taco Carnivore Bitcoin Plebs. Sort of a "we don't take ourselves too seriously" thing.

Core gatekeepers actively work to make forks more difficult and spreads lies to scare people into using only Core

Knots Dev team includes Core Dev team

Bears repeating: more forks is more decentralized. Supporting Knots decentralizes maintenance of the code base.

Open source is orthogonal to decentralization. So is team size and committers. The only question is control. Every project has to make a release. Every project is a single point of control. More projects and forks is the only thing that translates to decentalization.

Rather, it splinters it.

Why didn't you respond to anything I said in my post? Your generic response suggests you didn't read anything that I said

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Hell yea

Doesn’t every node runner vote on what software they use?

Not unless you mean it in a “voting with your feet” kind of way. Everyone can just use whatever software they want. Including software that is incompatible with the Bitcoin protocol.

It does. https://medium.com/bitcoinerrorlog/who-secures-bitcoin-95b19bbcda3c

There is a fine line between potential decentralization and actual decentralization. But it is a line that can make the difference between security and vulnerability. Core fans seem to flaunt the former but shadowban the latter.

question for vibe coders: which team has more kids ?