important discussion should happen in an open environment that is easily accessed and hard to censor
this is why nostr development and adoption is so important
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Can't even join the Google mailing list its so fucking stupid and embarrassing Bitcoin works like this
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Nostr just is. 💜 The natural order of things. Corrupt, evil beings cloud our perspective. Truth wins 🤙
Oh, have you not heard about Corny Chat yet? 🌽
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Looking forward to the day BTC dev and discussions move to nostr. Epic.
Ok I’ll start. We are incentivizing the non working class to have children at much higher rate than the working class


yes, i think we should incentivize families much more in this country in general
Tell that to your banana boat brother .. he thinks of your not a core dev you shouldn’t have an opinion on the matter. I thought you were Mr human rights pro freedom tech good brother? How can you side with Lameson Cock ???
you are both true.
@ODELL having an open environment allow people to speak publicly and allow some debate. But you can't force anyone to avoid this debate if he wants to mute you or just ignore and don't debate. No tool exists to change this kind of behavior.
npub1vs7ppc8cr4usfdwvut6ykw3kmm9lg2njz6l0vmzd70sf245778zq5d0avw i agree debate is needed here, and to have a real calm interesting exchange of points of view, there is no need to insult the other. Because it just kill the debate, each one thinking "i am true he is wrong".
A true debate means :
- Exchanging arguments in a normal way not need to force anything (i see that point, that problem, because of this and this...)
- Be ready to read and understand the other point if they go against your point just argue again or be ready to accept it.
This should be a reasonable debate, for everyone progress.
If anyone don't respect that, it will just be a fight of ego thinking they are all true and just insulting each other. And i am not pointing one specific man, but each one that don't really want to argue.
You’re right
And it can finish like this too :
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I’m not technical but can read this link from GitHub PR 🤷🏽♂️
https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/d6ZO7gXGYbQ
Nostr is the way to go 🤜
Yeah, maybe not on Github where @Bitcoin Mechanic can be silenced.
Why can't you join the list?
You need to learn padawan.
Only jedi can enter in the mailing list.
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(joke aside, i agree #nostr is the place where debate should be and uncensored). And i applause when each side came here to explain their point of view. @Jameson Lopp @jb55 ... all should come here to explain publicly "why they have/keep/change their position ?"
Because #bitcoin is not only miner, is not only devs, is not ony nodes.
It is just a common work to keep the network alive.
It's embarrassing they went back to Google after being banned.
The only argument I've heard against moving it to nostr is that nostr can't be moderated.
Vibe code the solutions! 🤣🫂💜
I don't think people want to be there, but what is the alternative? Needs to support email signup, get through email client spam filters, and have some small amount of moderation.
I have often wondered what a bitcoin mailing list relay would look like. Perhaps ASCII only. Integrate with a mail server or email service. Whitelisted accounts.
Mods can delete notes, lock threads, etc. It only impacts the bitcoin dev relay. If you want to reply to a post on a different relay no one can stop you. Client settings control which relays to look at.
No, I could think of ways to achieve that. But how will handle the email bridge?
Indeed, this is very important.
yeah. censorious control freaks dont like not being able to control others.
That's because you're retarded. It's a simple email to join, like any mail list ever.
Email is more accessible than nostr.
Yes
I've imagined similar. A plug and play mailing list relay anyone can run, but centrally gated. Almost like a relay federation. Whitelisted npubs. Note sharing. Of course with nostr anyone could reply to the notes on their own relay, but one could filter to viewing the gated relay to eliminate Sybil.
Why does it need to support email signup? I don't think the mailing list actually wants to use email as their discussion interface.
I has the least friction of entry. Everybody has an email client. Few have nostr clients. It is integrated in countless hacker tools and familiar to everybody.
Yep and plug the gated relay in to the mailing list. Viola, we have a better system. It's just a matter of inertia after that.
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#2 🔥 Community Highlights
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1. Nostr moment in “You are the voice” podcast of @Efrat Fenigson
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2. The importance of building the future of free speech
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3. Speed vs Sovereignty: The @primal Dilemma
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4. We are not just users; also Builders of Nostr
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5. First gradually, then suddenly on Nostr
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6. The easy access for bitcoiners to Nostr
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7. Nostr NIP-01 written explanation from @Sebastix
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8. From #Centralized social media to #Decentralized
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