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Naval_Nostr 2 months ago
Malheureusement, si j'ai bien compris l'article partagé hier sur protonail : dès que nos mails transiteront par le SMTP ils seront en accès libre et soumis aux règles de Google lorsque le destinataire sera gmail. L'intérêt de l'email décentralisé reste donc marginal car il faudrait que tout le monde possède une adresse nostr.
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Bruno SlingshotVPN 2 months ago
And if we code it well enough everyone can read everyone else's email. At least we dont pay for PA anymore... Someone will solve ourr issues... 🤣
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shortwavesurfer2009 2 months ago
This looks cool as fuck. Can somebody that's way the hell smarter than me take a look at this and confirm what is and is not private? I know, for example, that going to the regular SMTP email system cannot be private just due to the way email is. But what about internally npub to npub? Can people see who I'm emailing with and who is emailing me? Are the delete events, nostr events, and will the relays actually respect them, or will they just hold my emails in perpetuity? View quoted note →
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Russell russell@uid.ovh 2 months ago
Le problème n'est pas SMTP. Si l'email est chiffré de bout en bout, aucune personne non autorisée ne pourra lire le contenu. Le problème c'est dès que Google reçoit un email, ils peuvent le lire et l'analyser. L'objectif de nostr mail c'est avant tout de pouvoir posséder son adresse. En bonus, le chiffrement de bout en bout natif avec nip-44. Je vois nostr mail comme une solution pour que plus de fasse leurs premiers pas dans l'univers nostr.
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Russell russell@uid.ovh 2 months ago
Le problème n'est pas SMTP. Si l'email est chiffré de bout en bout, aucune personne non autorisée ne pourra lire le contenu. Le problème c'est dès que Google reçoit un email, ils peuvent le lire et l'analyser. L'objectif de nostr mail c'est avant tout de pouvoir posséder son adresse. En bonus, le chiffrement de bout en bout natif avec nip-44. Je vois nostr mail comme une solution pour que plus de fasse leurs premiers pas dans l'univers nostr.
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Russell russell@uid.ovh 2 months ago
We should support old format for transitioning. And we should move forward with time, the more people use Nostr, the fewer people will be on the old format.
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Russell russell@uid.ovh 2 months ago
You right, nostr mail needs a competitive UX to be appealing to the user. This is what I will try to build.
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smeef smeef@uid.ovh 2 months ago
The point is that there's no single point of failure, no centralized control, and your emails are guaranteed to sit encrypted at rest. Seems pretty cool to me. If it becomes production ready, I could potentially switch from Proton. You're right that using an npub for it is a bad idea though. You could implement it with a username/password too. There might be some multi-hash encryption algo that allows you to have a recovery key to change your password.
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Russell russell@uid.ovh 2 months ago
The protocol is 100% nostr native. It work by default between nostr users. The bridges are required to allow adoption. If there is no bridge, almost nobody would want to use it. See bridges as a nostr user (keypair) that forward emails to and from SMTP.
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El Nardo de Sudamérica 2 months ago
Eu testei esse email semana passada. O que mais achei fantástico é que qualquer um pode, em tese, criar uma ponte própria com os emails legados (Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo, Tuta, etc.) A ponte gratuita é funcional. Só achei problemática a cópia carbono, nem a normal e nem a oculta funcionam bem.
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