ELON TOOK THE AMERICA HANDLE TO PROMOTE TRUMP. HE CAN TWEET FROM BIDEN'S ACCOUNT OR THE WHITE HOUSE'S. AT WILL. FUCK IT. HE COULD TWEET FROM MULTIPLE MAJOR HANDLES AT THE SAME TIME. EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL. IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY THEY ARE NOT. HE COULD MAKE A MOCKERY OF ANY PERSON. ANY COMPANY. ANY COUNTRY. HE COULD CRASH GLOBAL MARKETS OR START A WAR IF HE WANTED. NOSTR IS NEEDED. NOSTR FIXES THIS. image

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Elon Musk 1 year ago
Chillax bro. I ain't gonna start any wars.
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Karnage 1 year ago
Counter point: White House key could leak and it could spew ww3 starting notes and nobody would be able to stop it. You’d have to get even client onboard to agree to hardcore a “ban”. Is it not so?
Power corrupts… we don’t need human gods. Nostr maybe as important as Bitcoin for the future of humanity’s free fair thought. Kudos Odell 🫡
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Toby McMann 1 year ago
If our destiny relies on Donald Trump, as Elon says, lord help us.
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Lostdog 1 year ago
If Trump is so great, then why is your entire timeline filled with notes bashing democrats 🤔 The point here is that on nostr you can verify who posted a note because of public key cryptography. On X Elon can post any tweet he wants on any account he wants. It's difficult to underestimate the potential for abuse of power, especially from a man child like Elon
> 1.) He put Elon Musk prior to the quote What if he didn't? > 3.) Who owns America? Nobody sees that and thinks it’s an official corp announcing something that could incite a war. If you saw something online “Iran says I will destroy Florida” and it had the “official” Iran Handle, wouldn’t you look to see who from Iran is saying that? If not, you’re, proverbially, a moron. What if he tweeted from the POTUS account? X doesn't have any signatures so it doesn't have a way to validate whether the real POTUS account sent the tweet.
This issue goes way beyond who you vote for or where you get your news. Whether you're ride-or-die for Trump or Kamala's biggest fan, whether you're glued to CNN or binge-watching Daily Wire, the threat's the same for everyone. It's the danger of being able to send a public message, pretending to be someone you're not, and your followers not being able to know it's actually you. Sure, maybe ODELL's war prediction is a bit over the top (though let's be real, in today's world, who knows?), but the potential for trashing someone's reputation or a brand's image? That's 100% legit and seriously concerning. Nostr fixes this
Not your keys not your coins 🧡 Not your keys not your notes 💜 Take responsibility for your wealth and your social sphere with #Bitcoin and #nostr
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ELON TOOK THE AMERICA HANDLE TO PROMOTE TRUMP. HE CAN TWEET FROM BIDEN'S ACCOUNT OR THE WHITE HOUSE'S. AT WILL. FUCK IT. HE COULD TWEET FROM MULTIPLE MAJOR HANDLES AT THE SAME TIME. EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL. IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY THEY ARE NOT. HE COULD MAKE A MOCKERY OF ANY PERSON. ANY COMPANY. ANY COUNTRY. HE COULD CRASH GLOBAL MARKETS OR START A WAR IF HE WANTED. NOSTR IS NEEDED. NOSTR FIXES THIS. image
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WildBill 1 year ago
Deep fakes are a problem. No argument here. This is not a deep fake. And I said nothing of politics, simply referenced lies by specific media. I called it hyperbolic, which you just verified.
It has nothing to do with deepfakes. The problem is that posts on any social media (and most chat applications) have no signatures, it's impossible to know that they're actually written by the user that posted it. This problem has been solved 50 years ago, social media platforms are literally 50 years behind the times; does that make sense now?
ELON MUSK IS A G WHY? HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT HE ISNT SCARED TO TAKE A STANCE ALL THE OTHER BILLIONAIRES ARE TOO PUSSY MOST ARE COWARDS ELON MUSK IS NOT THE ENEMY
I can verify, with and without a computer, now and till the end of time, that "5885893a033d01aab4d337375a740c043a8a6241e868873084342a658c3f924c1e43a140111025fd8b5f6a8135f1d077c9fd6c80958834681615bb60be12069e" is a valid signature by "9aff936f8619411c0692e14d7aaf49e45cfd908e8a9c7afd3c72a64ba0dcabfc" for note 3002d0906592f1f372bfedfc0c61c5e770c2a37e7c84d4f267edc8995f544229 (the one I'm replying to), meaning that the owner of that npub authored (you) authored that post. I don't have to rely on a central authority for that, a relay owner CANNOT submit a note and pretend you sent it, no matter how many resources they have (let's ignore quantum computers, once they become actually real (and I mean actually usable) nostr can easily switch to a quantum resistent algorithm and apps can display warnings over non-quantum signatures).
Cody, you’re very ignorant for assuming my position… Very ignorant, because in fact you completely missed what my statement was in reference to.
HEY @ODELL SIDENOTE I FIND IT HILARIOUS THAT YOU CLAIM TO BE ANTI KYC PRO PRIVACY PRO FREEDOM TECH ALL THIS CUTE SHIT THEN TURN AROUND AND INVEST IN KYC ANTI PRIVACY BITCOIN BUSINESSES
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WildBill 1 year ago
I completely agree. This isn’t the point of debate.
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WildBill 1 year ago
Haha I’m sure your comment has nothing to do with Odell’s post. Whatever you say man.
FElon Tusk reading @ODELL post image
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ELON TOOK THE AMERICA HANDLE TO PROMOTE TRUMP. HE CAN TWEET FROM BIDEN'S ACCOUNT OR THE WHITE HOUSE'S. AT WILL. FUCK IT. HE COULD TWEET FROM MULTIPLE MAJOR HANDLES AT THE SAME TIME. EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL. IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY THEY ARE NOT. HE COULD MAKE A MOCKERY OF ANY PERSON. ANY COMPANY. ANY COUNTRY. HE COULD CRASH GLOBAL MARKETS OR START A WAR IF HE WANTED. NOSTR IS NEEDED. NOSTR FIXES THIS. image
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Wild. It doesn't matter if you like Trump or Kamala, this isn't cool. No matter your politics, this is a show that Nostr is needed more than ever as attention and views are being weaponized for political gains.
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soloninja 1 year ago
National security sake government officials should never have a twitter account. It can start wars and nuclear conflict
Jumpy can’t control Nostr. Fight for your right to party is the old skool. This is the real deal and more people should care!
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ELON TOOK THE AMERICA HANDLE TO PROMOTE TRUMP. HE CAN TWEET FROM BIDEN'S ACCOUNT OR THE WHITE HOUSE'S. AT WILL. FUCK IT. HE COULD TWEET FROM MULTIPLE MAJOR HANDLES AT THE SAME TIME. EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL. IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY THEY ARE NOT. HE COULD MAKE A MOCKERY OF ANY PERSON. ANY COMPANY. ANY COUNTRY. HE COULD CRASH GLOBAL MARKETS OR START A WAR IF HE WANTED. NOSTR IS NEEDED. NOSTR FIXES THIS. image
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Hoos37 1 year ago
Influence beyond borders and command beyond limits
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the axiom 1 year ago
against the Democratic party everything is acceptable
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Zaelus 1 year ago
Thank you for being willing to make a comment like this. Even “freedom minded” people who think they’re better than others are just as susceptible to echo chambers as the people they try to condescend to. Sadly, from my perception, most of the biggest names on Nostr all do this.
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WildBill 1 year ago
Well now it’s true since you put it in all caps.
You have no idea to what I stated as being scary… you ran with your interpretation, talk less - listen more and ask questions. I used to be like you, you’ll realize how dumb you sound soon enough.
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WildBill 1 year ago
Thank you for the kind words. I’ve noticed that you’re not well received in the virtual Bitcoin space if you point out any issues among the community (i.e. Lightening Network has tons of flaws for scaling and suggest another project that fits the same mold as BTC, but scales-Kaspa). I love BTC. I buy it every week. But critical thinking is what led me here. It shouldn’t get thrown out the window once you arrive.
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WildBill 1 year ago
Haha I’d be happy to listen, but you responded to a post and said that it was scary. End of sentence. You didn’t elaborate. Just a simple sentence. And then you get offended because somebody critiqued your asinine comment on your blatantly obvious response to Odell’s post. If you don’t want to be judged for your words on a social media platform, be more explicit in thought. I used to be like you, but I learned to articulate my thoughts. You’ll realize how dumb you sound soon enough. Thankfully, my vocabulary extends past “fuck” to start a sentence and I can explain your problems to you.
I checked out Twitter last night and kept getting shown the same pro-Trump video that Elon shared on autoplay after I viewed any other video
The issue is that he didn't make it. He stole it. Just like he can steal any other handle, without disclosing that he has siezed control over it. The scenario described by Odell isn't that far fetched considering the mental status of the dopehead that owns and runs Xitter as his own little pet world.
This is all true but it comes with negative consequences to the platform. Abusing that power would create mistrust for the users. I hope he does it but I don’t think he’d be stupid enough to do that.
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Fatushi 1 year ago
THE RIGHT WORDS AT THE RIGHT TIME!!! JUST👏👏👏👏👏👏 NOSTR AND BITCOIN FIX THIS
Would it not be trivial to write a program that loops over a list of (hacked) keys to post notes at scale? Getting the list of keys is harder, but once obtained, is equivalent to owning multiple X/Twitter handles.
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Fatushi 1 year ago
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ELON TOOK THE AMERICA HANDLE TO PROMOTE TRUMP. HE CAN TWEET FROM BIDEN'S ACCOUNT OR THE WHITE HOUSE'S. AT WILL. FUCK IT. HE COULD TWEET FROM MULTIPLE MAJOR HANDLES AT THE SAME TIME. EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL. IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY THEY ARE NOT. HE COULD MAKE A MOCKERY OF ANY PERSON. ANY COMPANY. ANY COUNTRY. HE COULD CRASH GLOBAL MARKETS OR START A WAR IF HE WANTED. NOSTR IS NEEDED. NOSTR FIXES THIS. image
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Thanks for providing this context. I assumed Musk bought out the previous owner of the handle with a generous offer, but it sounds like he used the "dormant account" loophole in X's policy instead.
Look at how much you talk… I never said I was offended, but thank you again for revealing your ignorance for posterity. I merely pointed out your lack of understanding on my view that you still are not seeking. Talk less
C'est plutôt face aux dangers et risques de fracture sociale incommensurable de ses propos sur votre peuple que tous les citoyens américains se doivent de contrer à cette personnalité dite difficile en psychopathologie qu'il faut absolument réagir avant qu'il ne soit trop.. Avec Twitter en grosses difficultés financières plus abyssales qu'en fin 2022 mais qu'il a été obligé de racheter du fait de la subtilité juridique du team de Paraga, il a le destin dans ses mains votre nation et vous met Tous réellement en danger. Personne n'ose imaginer jusqu'où il est capable de casser toutes les bases qui vous unissaient quand-même..idem que Trump. Pour un gars comme non stable qui a vécu l'Aparteid, une des pires périodes de l'histoire de l'Afrique de plus est très mytho sur son tout son parcours de vie, sexualisé précosement rajouté à cela l'hubris qui exacerbe ses troubles il serait temps que des juges se penchent sérieusement d'avoir user du mensonge et lors de son accès à la naturalisation américaine qui est un délit serait vos lois ou recherchent un autre biais juridique pour le stopper.. Certes cela c'est une voie violente pour ce type de personnes en souffrance que l'ancien potus qui a dû s'attaquer aux symboles de votre nation et dont personne ne comprend l'exceptionnaliite de son retour en politique.. Autrement ce fut une des grossières erreurs de vos administrations de lui avoir ouvert le marché de l'espace pour le compte des Usa.. Domaine stratégique de l'armée qui ne devrait en aucune manière être attribué à un société ni à des particuliers de plus si instables sur le plan psychiatrique. Les Usa sont les premières à avoir autoriser cela à travers le Monde . Tous ceux de l'armée spécialisés vous le confirmeront.. Ces discours actuels ont des relents xénophobes et eugénistes idem pour celui lequel il avance des fonds de financements pour sa campagne ce tyoe financement à occulte lequel est surtout illégal en politique dans beaucoup de pays sur l'aspect démocratique puis selon les baromètres variants et des intentions de ventes vous risquez de vivre tant d'histoires rocambolesques m'est avis ô aux élections quoi qu'ils leur coûte pour revenir au pouvoir * God save America with all of us who don't live in your country but concerned geopolitical strategically and economically we are partners in so many boats. * GOOD EVENING THANKS YOU TO HAVE SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS NOW ONE X NO ONE IS ADMITTED TO SHARE A DIIFFERENTS VOICE AGAIN THEIRS SYSTEM OF THOUGHTS ALL THE BEST PSYCHIATRISTS IN YOUR COUNTRY SHOULD PREVENT THE CITIZENS FOR THEIRS DISEASES AND IT IS ON THEIRS RULES AFTER IT IS SOO DEEPLY LATE
Désolée j'ai omis la règle de bienséance.. Bonsoir et surtout vous souhaite une bonne semaine ⚜️🫂♾️
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WildBill 1 year ago
You started your sentence with “fuck”. I couldn’t care less what your view is haha.
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Zaelus 1 year ago
Why did you reply to the top post saying "that's scary", and then try to claim that someone replying to you has no idea as to what you are saying is scary? Do you just randomly comment shit on posts that has nothing to do with the content? I'm laughing at how you're calling him dumb yet you did this.
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AfterSound 1 year ago
If the right wins, X remains under one individual’s control. If the left wins, they remove X entirely. The world needs #Nostr
What timeline are you in? I’m already in WW4 on mine. Genuinely. WW3 ended when I came out of retirement. #Information #Warfare has always existed. This time: I took command. Hence why many of the boys in men’s bodies are big mads. They always hated me. All is well. I’m good. 🙂 What “ban” are you speaking of? There are many. Maybe start here. Which cluster? image
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Scoundrel 1 year ago
Everyone would believe the tweets are real? Do you really believe that?
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Scoundrel 1 year ago
The claim being made in the original post is an overreaction and is more extreme than the truth.
The month of October is going to be turbulent, the man directed storms that will impact Republican States, the wars that will rise the oil prices, the release of pathogen, viruses, all this before the elections. Should Trump loose the elections, the world will fall unto dictatorships, a censored world with total control. This is as critical for the people as it is critical for the deep State who’s afraid a Trump presidency, it would break the New World order in its path to total control and depopulation. Despite the low number of support for Kamala Harris, she’s still likely to win, we can already see ballots going to illegal immigrants and voting machines not working correctly, the Republicans have no lawyers working on election fraud. The question is for the new generations, how do you feel about free speech, the right to bear arm, the ownership of your children and your privacy? This will all go away in the next 10 years if the Democrats win this election, and this will be the last time you have the opportunity to turn things around for the US and the rest of the world.
I think his thoughts are somehow like this: Can I do bad to defeat greater evil? or Can I commit murder to kill an evil tyrant? practical vs idealistic
He assumed what I thought was scary. What’s scary is power wielded by individuals over the free thought of a people. His ignorant comment assumed I was commenting in regards to “being scared” that Musk commented on behalf of @America. His and your comments are riddled with assumption. Talk less comrade. #badbot
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Zaelus 1 year ago
You replied to a post with a purposefully vague statement just so you could be a fucking dickhead to people in the comments. This is clearly just bait. Do you go into a store and just point in a random direction and say "I want that" and let the employees waste their time figuring out what your dumb ass means? Learn to communicate better, *comrade*.
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Chad Lupkes 1 year ago
Can whoever owned that profile prior to the takeover sue him for $1Billion or something?
I don’t owe you or anyone shit, comrade. You and your other account chose to assume someone’s position. Talk less and ask questions. Take your shit energy back to twitter. Go touch some fucking grass.
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Zaelus 1 year ago
You just stupidly and ignorantly assumed I was replying to you. Clearly shows how much of an imbecile you are. Just because I replied to your comment, it doesn't mean shit. Stop choosing to assume my position. Not everyone who replies to you is speaking to you, smooth brain. You should take that shit energy back to Twitter and stop making assumptions about people. By the way, I love the irony of how you say "ask questions" yet can't be bothered to respect others who do the same 🤣 we're done here. Comrade.
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WildBill 1 year ago
Can you please explain to me what “fucking grass” is? Thank you.
Your energy screams low T, soyboy vibes comrade. Perhaps too much time in the gulag? Go touch some grass and eat some beef. I’d encourage you to stay humble and stack sats.
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Janne Kujala 1 year ago
You know, Trump and his organization has been involved in over 4000 legal cases including but not limited to unpaid contracts, scamming money via charities and through phony educational institutions, sexual harassment and or assault, falsifying business records, conspiring to inciting deadly violence to overthrow an election. Some of which have been settled (admission of guilt), some he has been found liable and guilty to. I know people have their reasons to side with him, most want to quickly elevate their net worth thinking about beneficial tax or crypto policies and are willing to overlook moral issues for that. Nepotism, general morals, truth, racism, international rules or genocide are not relevant in these people’s decision making. Some of these people genuinely think that despite Trump’s record and behavior he is and has always been a victim of some government organized attack. Some people also stay in abusive relationships for economic reasons, it happens. His legal troubles have started in the 70s and have continued to this day so it would be good to approach this based on some facts no matter what draws you to his spell. I don’t like socialism, central banking or too much regulation either, but if the vehicle offered for change is corrupt in every way possible the outcome will not be net positive, there is already empirical evidence for that.
Musk's "star chain technology" will change the world political landscape. In particular, dictatorial evil countries are most afraid of Musk's "star chain technology". Fortunately, Musk is not an evil person. If star chain technology is given control by evil rich people such as the evil Bill Gates and the evil Facebook Zuckerberg, the world will collapse.😎😎😎😭
lol why are you still browsing twitterx, i thought its #nostronly with caps forever
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WildBill 1 year ago
Haha it’s laughable that you accuse him of stealing something, but there’s no victim, because you don’t know who he stole from?? If all we’re doing is playing the “what if” game regarding all the deep fakes Elon COULD do, then let’s play that game. But don’t pretend that because he used a handle called “America”, written in gold, he all of the sudden speaks for America on all issues and could start WWIII.
Social networks are centralised, newspapers are centralised, TV stations are centralised, radio stations are centralised. Bitcoin is the only hope for freedom, thank you guys for being out there and fighting for freedom.
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