It is easy to fake the upswing in Knots nodes
But the downswing in Core nodes? That's hard to fake. You have to *convince* people to stop running it so that they stop showing up in the charts.
Looks like a lot of people are getting convinced!
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True. Or there has been faking of Core nodes in the past that now meet reality. VPS credits that expired or so. But for sure there are people that are switching from Core to Knots.
Comments in YouTube show strong trend in favour of Bitcoin Knots.
I would like the record to show that there are many fake and gay things in this world, but my knots node is not one of them.
So many retards😂
What was the highest court for Core nodes?
Good point !
Hmm interesting 🤔
Noted.
I think it was 21,690 on coindance
Hey, if they want to distribute CSAM, that’s on them.
That’s a big drop 🧐
im gonna be honest core count has been going down hardly.
but also im running a node with knots at the same time.
and my irl friends as well, we all running knots now.
everyone irl i orange pilled before running knots
I wonder if all those knots nodes are really full nodes with port 8333 open and mempool larger than 1GB and really reliable.
I doubt it. They are just virtue signaling
I keep hearing that knots numbers are inflated based on a recent surge, but I know Start9 ( a self-sovereign server) just released an update to both Core and Knots and a lot of people made the switch at that point. I just went to knots a week ago myself.
I'll keep saying it - I'm not 100% certain the changes to core are dangerous, but they sound like it so I'll run knots until someone can explain why I shouldn't.
> Or there has been faking of Core nodes in the past that now meet reality. VPS credits that expired or so.
My money is on that.
Unsybil Attack = An imaginary type of attack where plebs are magically able to remove core nodes from the stats, just by running a "fake" knots node. The term is often used as a coping mechanism by the godlike wizards of the core dev team spam apologists, who's (brand new and never tried before in BSV) ideas are so necessary that it's a miracle Bitcoin survived for 16 years without their implementation.
In that chart, I have 1 Knots plus and 1 Core minus. 😎
Same here - kept Core on V28.1 and this weekend switched to Knots. Lets see how this whole thing turns out in the future
Core is fucked
This conflict does not speak well of Bitcoin and detracts from running your own node
One of the things that makes me proud of bitcoin is its exhibition of rightly ordered freedom. Users freely select the software that does what they like best, and freely run it, without harming anyone else. Everyone wins in a "conflict" like this. The number of node runners goes up, bitcoin's network health rises, and everyone gets to express their opinion through software choices. To me, it's a beautiful thing. I want more of it.
I think LN reliability will go down though if these new Tor node runners try creating channels for the first time and if Knots defaults cause issues with LN channels (closing, CPFP...) 😉
i agree with all your points, but bitcoins biggest disadvantage to adoption is its complexity. Its like the ERP SAP which is smarter than most of its users. Bitcoin is in a similiar boat. If you have a software/tech background you will be fine but for those who don't it does not come across well.
1. bitcoin exists for 16 years and is very conservative when it comes to changes so what you have to learn isnt a moving target like it is by design for shitcoins - this means dedicating some time, you CAN actually slowly learn yourself into it.
2. once upon a time, most ppl could not read/write, but bitcoin is for eternity and the new generations grow up with programming as a literacy. It might again take many generatiin to include all of humanity, but it might also happen much faster this time around.
3. yes, there are quite a few thing to learn to understand bitcoin, but the alternative means to continue to deal with capitalism as it ia today.
Core 30 smells really disgusting! Filter works and that's why I changed to run Knots
I think I persuaded openoms that it's wrong to insinuate that Knots users are in danger of force closures or cpfp difficulties. Perhaps the thread will convince you too:
> Less valid transactions in my mempool will make my node unreliable in predicting the next block and estimate fees, especially in extreme cases where it could be critical
I do not understand this criticism. Neither Knots nor Core looks *only* at the mempool to estimate fees. Partly as a result of this, the scenario where a wallet based on Knots would give a fee estimate that "wouldn't work" seems absurd: (1) the total weight of spam transactions in the mempool would have to *suddenly* increase (2) without a corresponding, similar increase in competition from "normal" (non-spammy) transactions (3) to a point where the non-spammy transactions only show fees at level X (4) but the real feerate is actually at level Y (5) and Y is so much larger than X that X won't work. But even that's not enough, for the following reason:
As an example of a wallet with a critical need to get a transaction confirmed in a certain time frame, consider a lightning node. These have to be prepared to use RBF or CPFP to bump their transactions if a justice transaction is called for, because they must "go through" in a certain time frame. (E.g. see here: https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/lnd/sweeper). Since Knots and Core both look at "recent blocks" to figure out what the current feerates are, and not just the mempool, this means the above scenario -- with the sudden increase in spam fees with several other conditions attached -- will only cause the wallet to fail to get its transaction confirmed if the scenario *repeats* as each subsequent block comes out, such that the additional fee information provided by block K+1 is already out of date when Knots tries to estimate fees again at the prompting of whatever wallet wants to use RBF or CPFP to get its transaction confirmed.
Given the absurdity of such a situation playing out in the real world, it seems equally absurd to use this as a legitimate criticism of Knots. Even in critical applications, your fee estimator does not need a *precisely accurate* mempool. If bitcoin required that, it would be a broken system, because the mempool is intentionally not consensus critical.
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🤔 makes sense
thats all correct as well, but some people will never be able to grasp bitcoin, so they will stick with fiat, or buy gold. Its for this reason, that although I am all-in in BTC, I support gold investors.
Yeah, I don't understand cpfp, so I'll have to trust you on that.
Apparently someone at core is wasting a shitload of money running cloud nodes to make it seem like less people have stopped using core.
I don't know if that's true can't even remember where I read it.
I doubt it, I don't think the folks at Core are interested in keeping up those types of appearances
But it would not surprise me if some bystander is doing it for fun. It's cheap and easy to influence chart numbers, so if someone observes that people are looking at them a lot and drawing inferences from them, they may spin up sybils just to laugh at them
Don’t believe the experts!
of course not everyone will understand bitcoin, but that is true for everything. thats why we have hype cycles.
the point is that the late majority adopts once it is around for long enough and the adopters have shown its usefulness, etc... people go with what their peers go with.
i function in the same way and i claim everyone does. i might have accumulated some expertise when it comes to bitcoin or cryptogrqphy or programming or peer to peer protocols or economics... but life is broad and ...what about nutrition? what about exercise? what about healthy materials for your home? what about relaxing? what about good equipment? what about this? what about that?
ppl work, ppl live, ppl might take care of family and a plethora of other things.
thus, i claim nobody can know it or learn it all and everyone needs to figure out how to trust some other hopefully more knowledgable peers to give good recommendations.
if a topic happens to be far away from your personal domain of expertise and you sadly dont have enough trusted peers that could reliably convey the value, then it is difficult to find a bridge or mean to evaluate "the new thing" ...and especially for older folks who have a lot of responsibilities already its not easy to make the time to dig into stuff the same way youngster have 🤷♀️
long story short - in the long run things will get better anyway 😂
those who wont grasp and stick will be the last who change when they can only get stuff by paying in bitcoin, so they will start to have a need for bitcoin and its obviously safe, as everyone demands and uses it... just the same as fiat now. ...will take a bit to get there, so focusing on those is currently useless. they stand on the sidelines and delegate to others and pick whatever wins. they dont have opinions. ...and they pay for this service by being late adopters i guess?
Well yeah. Your right. I was thinking of special needs and elderly.
its not necessary. every special needs person and elderly person has a social context and history and they might have folks who take care of them and/or have people they trust that are into bitcoin, so some of them might actually be early adopters, while some very smart and capable ppl might be far away from bitcoin for all kinds of reason and reject its adoption ... so i wouldnt imagine a distribution that would disadvantage elderly or special needs folks in particular to be honest 🤷♀️
Because of propaganda from people like you... And it is propaganda.