What old ways do you refer to?

Direct sponsorship/patronage from a single benefactor. I think creatives within the v4v space often end up suffering the consequences of a sort of bystander effect. Where members of their audience or potential audience will subconsciously or even consciously think "oh someone else will give them....x....y...z" I don't want to go off on too much of a rant about this but I think this would solve a lot of frustrations I've heard people have about v4v. Also. Keep in mind that conceptually I love v4v and I can remember when Adam first started saying it. So I'm definitely not in any way trying to rally against it.

Those that are frustrated with the v4v ecosystem need to understand time preference. Most shows I produce would lose money if I measured the value on the same day. However, this is a savings technology that means theyll all be profitable in a year or so. Show me another paradigm where the risk / reward ratio is separated by time only? @Aaron of Essex

The bystander effect is an issue. Which is why @Aaron of Essex hosts the shows he shouts at everyone to get their wallets out. Artists don't like asking for money. Just listening to them is payment enough.

Lots of V4V music productions in the past have way over spent imo and at a level that I don't think you'd ever break even. What the solution? Idk but I feel like your running it as lean as you can and hoping in pays off in the end. You seem to have a nice community backing you that seems to be growning. A lot of OGs in the space have also dumped a lot of capital into things in the past and are kind of tapped out in a sense or we just wait until something comes along that we want to shell out some money for. There are some big numbers people boast about receiving in the past and that all came from somewhere. Those people also have seemed to have moved on. We do need new people also but I don't know how we solve that issue since onboarding is a nightmare. I'm also focused on building/fixing current issues and not so much onboarding since the underlying tech isn't great. Look at TJ from The Doerfel's is he making a living? No but he was a home studio that we helped him fund and he gets to do live streams and podcasts from it whenever he wants. He also has the best of the best on speed dial basically to help with anything he needs since we now our time spent helping him will be well worth it and much appreciated. I'm still very optimistic on all of this and it just needs more time which is a shot thing to say when stuff cost money to produce.