The Bitcoin Core vs Knots debate is framed as “pro-spam” vs “anti-spam.” This is obviously a false dichotomy. Core isn’t “pro-spam” and running Bitcoin Core on your node does not make YOU “pro-spam.” Anyone who frames it as such is either purposefully gaslighting or retarded.

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At risk of sounding retarded, It could also be argued that it is people who are pro child porn vs anti child porn. One of the immediate uses of the OP_RETURN expansion on BSV was to freely distribute child pornography in op returns. So there is that.
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JackTheMimic 3 months ago
Yeah Walker. I'm not pro-crime. I just make sure that everybody who assaults anyone gets back out on the street as soon as possible. Give everybody as many free drugs as they can take and make sure that anyone caught defending themselves against the misunderstood is punished.
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brah 3 months ago
Sounds like something someone pro-spam would say
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Jose Sammut 3 months ago
The debate centers on whether Bitcoin is primarily a monetary network and if it should also serve as an unmoderated data transfer network. If you consider Bitcoin to be a monetary network, then non-monetary data on it can be regarded as spam.
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Jose Sammut 3 months ago
Yes. People who are fine having cp in their mempool, and people who aren't.
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
Core v 30 enables more spam, meaning it is pro-spam. Based on your propaganda you are either gaslightnig or retarded. But the truth may be that your close friends like Lopp are spammers and shitcoiners.
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This is the disgusting shitcoin spammers business model. Now they sell message storage on Bitcoin but you can see its capped to 80 Bytes (on OP_RETURN). Do you wonder why? Becuase filters work. Next they want it to 100 KB and start selling distributed storage for CSAM. Its fucking disgusting. image https://poststr.com/
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isnt it more like csam v. no csam at this point? pretty sure the binary is that now... how should us idiots get our nuance on re: that reduction?
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
Inscriptions, which are your retarded excuse, can be fixed using node policies. But you know that. You have other incentives to not be fixed and gaslight. image
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
Have you ever told the root cause of this "debate"? Something about Citrea starting it? Do you remember how Core CENSORED contributors, devs and other peoples opinion for just mentioning Citrea? Do you remember Core supporters attacking Bitcoin Knots? Your and Core gaslighting is not the worst things. We already saw worse things. But the truth is out ther, for example in this video ...
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Bitcoin Core Hitting New Lows
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Core isn’t “pro-spam” and running Bitcoin Core on your node does not make YOU “pro-spam.” hahahah really? Did you know what is a Kb and the implication that might occur with 100 of them in an innocent mempool that unaware update to Core 30 ?
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Charlie 3 months ago
Honestly did not see Walker becoming enemy #1 over here. That's what happens when you defect from the Purity Spiral.
Problem is that it doesnt matter what you believe, what matters is what the network is capable of and what people bidding on blockspace value.
Who allowed all the sub sat feerate txs to go through? Core changed nothing and 99% of the network was filtering it. Perhaps Core is not malicious and enabling spam, perhaps they understand that economic incentives ultimately influence blockspace market activity and they are moving to mitigate second order effects of this reality.
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
Bad actor miners like Mara did it but they were forced to stop because nodes delay those transactions and if there are competing blocks the bad actor miners blocks will be rejected. At this point its clear that everyone who support no filters is a shitcoiner who supports spam, scam and shitcoining memes into Bitcoin. The argument that its already possible is BS because runes and ordinals spam can be fixed as well. image
No you don't, consensus dictates what the network is capable of. If you want to change consensus feel free to create a fork and see if the market adopts it.
So I guess I am retarded for not being down with kiddie porn. Guess I would probably be a whale by now if I just wanted to see little Timmy take it up the rear end. Guess I would be an intelligence asset if I just played along with child exploitation. Kind of why I told my last job to fuck off, Because I was being exploited.
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
I am against the change and CP as well. Just showed that same change on BSV resulted in CSAM which is terrible we should not allow it on Bitcoin, as much as we can.
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
If Bitcoiners are aware, they will either not run Core V30 or run Bitcoin Knots. There is always something to do. Educate more people about the evil change and the threat. Run Knots.
From a game theory perspective, This is interesting, Because it will force AWS servers to stop running bitcoin nodes. Could this be core trying to take nodes out of the hands of AWS? Or is it just to enable child porn? Udi and the wizards could that kind of gay. To clarify, Udi and the bitcoin wizards crew could be pedophile looses who like watching kids get fucked on the internet.
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BitcoinIsFuture 3 months ago
Well, in my opinion, this is the reason - see the thread below. You can see the incentives of the shitcoiners who profit from spam, you can see their business model and you can see who started it and the root cause.
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This is the dirty secret of the shitcoiners among Core devs and supporters of no filters and spammers. They want spammers to do as much money they can with their scams and they hope that economic incentives will at some point in future solve the spam and CSAM problem. Shitcoiners are disgusting. Also their "hope" may be just as retarded plan. image Bitcoin is THE Global Most Secure Decentralized Unconfiscatable Peer-to-Peer Scarce Hard Sovereign Freedom Money and Greatest Store of Value We need to run Bitcoin Knots to keep Bitcoin free of spam and decentralized View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note →
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I remember this debate during the ordinals and runes launch. Ethereum stuff on bitcoin. I’m all for people exploring their nerdy ideas in cyberspace, However I do want to be aware when they are also exploring their sexual fantasies as I might be exposing my non existent children to predators thinking I am giving them an early education about decentralized finance not knowing that they are preying on my kids. It makes sense, Pedos are usually not rich or famous or socialites. They are usually the opposite. What a better place to find prey than a meetup where people who feel excluded from central bank lending and who are purposely obscure and hiding in the internet. Not being rich enough for kids doesn’t change because you find out bitcoin exists. There is no way to accumulate bitcoin if you have children and expenses to cover. This could also be “the establishment” starting the bear market. Nothing like child porn to ruin market sentiment. And Trump being exposed right after his kid starts a mine. Seems like a convergence of many different market forces. Remember: bitcoin is a decentralized algorithm. It’s not Santa, It’s not your friend. It is just an algorithm securing assets on chain.