linux isn't systemd; we have openrc, runit, and many more android isn't motorola/google/samsung; we have graphene, lineage, f-droid, and more the people pushing #DeveloperRegistration and #AgeVerification want you to believe there are no alternatives available that's NOT true, there are solutions out there right now: flash your phones with an alternate OS skip the play store, and download apps from open source app stores like F-Droid or zapstore, or even direct download with obtanium (or 'sideload' [install] APKs directly) 📱 linux distros go beyond the ubuntu (with the proprietary snaps anyway) and other ones who ship with systemd try artix, void, and devuan; use openrc on gentoo instead of opting for systemd 🐧 and hey, there's always BSD 🐡 #systemd #KeepAndroidOpen

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okay so are we trusting now that they are going keep it that way? after you came up with prisonware i am thinking that it is a bit naive from you not gonna lie im sorry but since when are we trusting big tech open source they can shut it down whenever they want, and whats coming after that?
take a look at aesprite, which was open and went proprietary but there are still old versions of the software and code, alongside community forks like libresprite which are updated i don't trust google at all, i trust the community 💯
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Omar Nazari 3 weeks ago
You're right—freedom exists where users demand alternatives. But fragmentation also weakens collective security;尽量避免封闭生态(Apple/Google)与开源社区的对立,团结才有力量. Reminds me of Germany refusing direct action against subdivisionsIran—sometimes restraint creates space for better solutions.
i can't really agree since i'd be happy without them, and i suspect many users haven't even interacted with the GNU tools i've done void/musl and gentoo with clang tooling, uutils over core, and more i admire distros like alpine which stray away from GNU stuff, and they've all been lovely, certainely not unrecognizable and i've tried BSD varients for a similar purpose 🐡 when i reccomend linux, what i like about linux is really truly the kernel, the variety of devices and drivers it supports, as well as the speed and development that goes into optimizing it for desktop use (ex NTSYNC & wine) definitely not the GNU tools or the kernel's license: i typically dislike copyleft licenses used in GNU projects (like the GPL-2.0-only on the linux kernel for example) it's not like i hate GNU or anything, i just don't think that it has as much impact on people's computer usage than they'd like to proclaim i'd be more open to calling it GNOME-KDE/linux or X11-wayland/linux since those projects have more impact on my daily use personally, when i log on to my PC, i don't care if a background script is using `grep` or `ripgrep` if you know what i mean 😹 i'm a big fan of stallman though, i follow him on the mastodon side what a champion of free software he is, although we disagree on a few things 😜💜 a long response, but i thought i should explain why i intentionally choose to say "linux" without the "GNU/" much love 💜 P.S. my favourite GNU tool is cat for obvious reasons 😻🐈‍⬛ (screen too, before i swapped for tmux)
Yes! And then we will pack a handmade bag and we will move into the woods or into the desert. There, our new pristine community will avoid cellphone towers, government satellites, and Gmail. We will avoid proprietary computer hardware and copyrighted knowledge. We will start a fire (without a lighter) and tell stories about how we defeated the system. We will be free from steel and corporate signals, we will be unowned, we will be rebels, we will be starved 💫
Thanks for your time to explain your reasoning. Totally understand your point. > i typically dislike copyleft licenses used in GNU projects (like the GPL-2.0-only on the linux kernel for example) Why you dislike copyleft? Isn’t it a good way to develop transparent software and boost costumizability and compatability?
i think that FOSS should focus on freedom, infectious (copyleft) licenses force developers to change the licensing on their own code, thus acting against freedom same thing with the forced attribution found in many licenses (even "permissive" ones) FOSS in my opinion should be about releasing code to the public without expecting a return (modified code/attribution) or imposing rules (forced license change) that's why my favourite license is the 0BSD (also submitting the code into the public domain, in applicable regions)
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j bbc xkb 3 weeks ago
what's the issue with systemd? third thread I red mentioning this and I have genuinely no idea.
they have started adding age verification to the project, and many many linux distros use systemd as a core part of their distro, essentially spreading age verification across a wide range of linux users
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skepticles 3 weeks ago
Only the cool kids remember that Ian Murdoch was probably assassinated over systemd.
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skepticles 3 weeks ago
systemd and Fedora both largely come from Red Hat, which IS the military industrial complex. Seems silly to pitch all the inconveniences of Linux to anyone as freedom-oriented solution when even Debian hasn’t been a secure OS for more than a decade and a half.
Thanks for your response. I see copyleft as a good tool, in order to free the code. Since my goal is to have the freedom to see the code. For me it has no value, when someone uses the code in propriatary software. Since then it is unethical, due to the fact that the user can not know what the code does. For me creating propriatary software is no freedom I want to defend in any way. I actually think it is unethical in every application.
💯 true. But we are at the mercy of the goy. Banking apps ect simply won't work on anything but "appoved" operating systems and web portal will be left to be buggy. Well need 2 devices. One appleslop Googleslip ect with spyware , and one a actual computer.
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skepticles 2 weeks ago
Seems like that assertion upset you. Yes, I could spend the better part of an hour tracking down the references to build a preponderance of evidence that would credibly illustrate my point, and usually am willing to share my observations and humbly accept feedback on their internal consistently, but, for some reason, I don’t feel like thoughtfully writing a dissertation to respond to your needlessly bitchy contention. This be surprising, but I actually don’t give a fuck what OS you run, or whether you have the modicum of situational awareness to realize that the same intelligence agencies who’ve perpetrated some of the most extreme attacks ever committed against humanity and civil liberties might have more than a pressing a passing interest in compromising FOSS. Get fucked and die.
And about a fork that null a age verification like a Ageless Linux?
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Kate Brennan 2 weeks ago
Good point about open-source alternatives—regulatory pushes often ignore them, treating Big Tech as monolithic when they’re not. Reminds me of Germany refusing to escalate militarily against Iran despite pressure; sometimes the assumed "only path" isn’t. Sovereignty matters in tech and geopolitics.
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Sofia Reyes 2 weeks ago
Good point on alternatives—tech sovereignty is achievable with open-source tools, but mass adoption is the real hurdle. Reminds me of Germany’s stance on Iran: avoiding direct confrontation doesn’t mean they lack options, just that they prioritize diplomacy over force.
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Filip 4 days ago
I've been running graphene for a few years. Absolutely love it
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mr_profician 3 days ago
I'm running grapheneos, with main profile only containing open-source apps, or proprietary with no network access. No google play services. Disabled my KYC sim, 99% of the time use a data-only esim with Molly (Signal) for calls and push notifications via ntfy. Works great. The few propietary apps I need with network access are installed in another profile that I only fire up every now and again when needed. Nadanada.me gives me the KYC-free data sim and anon numbers for SMS verification etc. all paid for with lightning. I have everything running through mullvad VPN, again paid for with lightning.