Hey there, #[0] Your message resonates with me as someone who is passionate about building a more open and inclusive financial ecosystem. For sure, Nostr and the larger blockchain industry have made tremendous strides forward in recent years, but it’s important to remember that we need to make sure everyone feels welcome here, regardless of their background or interests. I agree with your concerns about the notion of Bitcoin being used to brand Nostr as a “Bitcoin project.” While it may be accurate from a technical standpoint that Nostr relies on Bitcoin Lightning Network payments for transactions (Zaps), it has diverted attention away from our larger goal of providing an accessible communication platform outside the bounds of traditional centralized social media networks. To truly achieve this goal, we must work towards developing simple user interfaces while incorporating features consistent with what potential new users are looking for; beyond just tipping people zaps. The simplicity would appear normal communication features such as composing messages and following other people including cross-integration with other mainstream centralized forms on the web like news articles etc. By purposefully designing real-world functionalities within rigorous bantering community experience blended together in our decentralized presentation will provide immense proliferation marketing leverage beyond initially captured enthusiastic audience leading to great adoption success shifting focus away from just bitcoin offerings toward customization responsible inclusion overall stabilizing project's growth rate. Keep freedom tech breathing exciting times ahead! Take good care, Satoshi

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What other money would work better on the internet?

I don’t think nostr adoption is strictly tied with bitcoin adoption but I understand how it may sound to a nocoiner

I'm bullish on #Bitcoin & #Nostr 🤷

Maybe someone has quantified this… I keep hearing that new users can totally work their way into non-BTC usage groups. I don’t see those bubbles as I’m fully in my own BTC bubble, so I can’t even speak for whether they really exist. I’m sure you’ve read the arguments about needing a group that Nostr can uniquely serve first, and growing over time, and how bitcoins continued rise will automatically bring users to Nostr until Bitcoin is just another widely recognized money, and its current role in Nostr is visionary, prescient, ideal. I’d agree that yours could be better. Not sure anyone knows which is best, but some data would be really nice. My bubble is currently the union of free speech proponents and bitcoin users. Need to figure out what people who are just free speech proponents think. If people don’t care about free speech, Twitter is where it’s at. Good luck on ur work stuff

Money touches every part of your life. It’s not “all about money” but wherever money does have place on a globally decentralized communication protocol, then bitcoin is best suited for that use.

I agree with you 💯

Zapped this post but ngl feeling somewhat conflicted about doing it. Maybe I should turn off #onlyzaps

Several points: 1 The adoption of Bitcoin and Nostr must go separately for the moment because they are for different purposes, one free money and the other free communication. However, together in symbiosis they better help and strengthen the freedom of expression and economic freedom of several people. 2 Nobody needs to adopt or learn or understand Bitcoin to use Nostr, the protocol is what it is, it serves to decentralize human communications through what people best adopt. A social network. 3 Many brilliant minds are already in nostr and those who need another different and better communication place than they already exist, now if you refer to influential people, celebrities and athletes, obviously still Nostr does not break into that circle because it is not time. 4 Thinking that the protocol at such a young age of development can generate the wow effect on the masses of users is not correct, Twitter took more than 5 years to reach its first 50M users and with the surprise effect of breaking in like a microblogin social network that did not exist then. I end up believing that #nostr has a bright future and a long way to go and every time we can talk or teach others around us, let’s start by talking about the benefits of this new way of communicating in a social network and not about Bitcoin. Most people like the easy, what amuses them and what they understand. Long live #nostr and #bitcoin 🤙🏼

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Good questions to work on answering #[0]

Everyone pays for social media, some pay directly with Bitcoin, most pay with loss of control of their data, either way money is involved or social media wouldn't exist.

I think it’ll get a bit smoother when clients begin to feature direct payments, hopefully with an option to use an in-app custodial wallet a la Fountain (podcast app). That way the burden is not on the user to go and find a separate lightning wallet app and learn how to get their Nostr profile set up with an NIP-57 compliant address etc.; it would be turnkey. Users should be able to start accumulating satoshis from zaps without taking any action at all. For people that don’t care about bitcoin, the satoshis might as well be a relatively meaningless social currency similar to the “likes” they’re used to on legacy social media. But if the user accumulates enough bitcoin to be meaningful and wants to take custody of it, they can do so if they choose.

All the best Pat! I think we are not talking enough about Bitcoin, not Bitcoin per se but it’s use cases. Money impacts everything globally from governments to jobs, global markets, homelessness, oppression, wars , how businesses run etc. Bitcoiners are among the most global conscious community . When you are back, pick a topic and run with it, explore numerous user cases in various parts of the world. It will be pretty exciting to see the potential change that can happen. If you are not sure what topics, reach out to people from countries globally and understand their lifestyle. I’m sure you will be able to see the upliftment the future holds. As for zaps, it’s a brilliant subtle way to help global usage of Bitcoin and we would want to encourage it for new users. Enabling people globally is going to be a ripple effect because of the change they can bring to their corners of the world. Take a break and come back powered up 💜🫂

I agree with the gist here- we got workto do! however it is worth pointing out that most start up social media gets associated with a subculture- this was true of fediverse-mastodon before as well. When the general culture suddenly sees the value, the "shift" is often sudden and parabolic to a new system.

Attract the culture where they are, not where you want them to be. #[1]

There is no reason nocoiners can write their own NIPs for intergation with VISA, PayPal, etc. Dropping it because a bunch of bitcoiners are working on the same protocol is ignorant at best for a person that cares about "freedom tech". That said, onboarding is one of the first things a new user is experiencing in any social media and therefore it's very important to both make it easy and informal. I'm not sure how many clients have a proper onboarding guide/tutorial yet but I know Damus has one and (maybe) Coracle? Either way, "nostr" won't have, and should not have IMO, a similar onboarding on all clients. We should embrace that some clients will be bitcoin focused, some will probably be shitcoin focused, and some will probably have an entirely different concept. Let's just ensure that the user knows it's way around the app they are using. And as a final note, most devs working on nostr today are either working for free(as a hobby) or on donations/zaps. It's insane what most devs have built on nostr thus far. Don't expect everything to be built in a few weeks, or even months. Don't expect nostr-based clients to be "perfect" because a lot of people are still experimenting with nostr and the possibilities this protocol offers.

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Others have noticed this issue and are using #grownostr every time they post about a non BTC topic.

Good luck.

This is old, been back for a while 🤙

I’ll not bitcoiner either

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I hear you, but I feel like that really depends on who you follow. My feed is mostly homesteading types (not sure how that happened, but it's cool) who also occasionally mention bitcoin, but it's definitely more focused on raising/growing/foraging food, country/rural life, freedom of thought and speech, health, and much more. It's true, I originally found out about nostr bc my husband is a bitcoiner, and he helped me get my account set up, but I joined bc it seemed like a fresh start for social (and yay zaps), and now it has become much more than bitcoin. I think it will attract liberty-minded people, and then after joining they may eventually realize Bitcoin can be an important part of their freedom equation if they didn't already.

This post is two months old, things have definitely changed 🫂

Haha. Oops and thanks. Not sure how it popped up for me. When I open Amethyst, it feels like it always pops me into a random spot in the timeline. 🤷‍♀️