You know how dumb no-coiners look when they insist they know better than you but they’ve only studied the fiat currency they were born into?
You talk circles around them, right? You talk about the Rai stones. You talk about gold and silver. You talk about glass beads and wampum. You talk about paper. You talk about shitcoins. You talk about Bitcoin.
They sit there feeling completely outclassed. People don’t like that, especially in a public setting with witnesses. So, what often happens is the person who feels outclassed masquerades as though they are not outclassed. They don’t want to feel like they “can’t hang” in the conversation but since they cannot refute any of your talking points and have little of substance to say, instead they engage in attempts to rugpull the value of all of your due diligence with a fun tactic called “invincible ignorance”.
Invincible ignorance is a tactic in which they stubbornly refuse to do their due diligence on the same subjects on the grounds that to do so would be a waste of time. While that may or may not be true, they cannot HONESTLY render that judgment as they have not done the due diligence. You can’t know in advance that studying something is going to be a waste of time. There is a sunken cost to every instance of education. It is what it is. You can’t justify walking past a closed door by ignorantly asserting that there is nothing of value behind it. Even a 4 year old can understand this logic.
Now…apply this same logic to religion. If you’ve only studied the tradition into which you were born, or maybe you’ve studied two because you’re a convert, you’re not different from the arrogant no-coiner banging the Keynesian fiat drum. Acting like you have a sound grasp on cosmology, ethics, and history when you’ve only got one or two traditions under your belt is charlatanism, arrogant, and frankly, participation in a Ponzi scheme of false validation.
Each tradition offers testimony to the truth. Each witnesses testimony may be more or less distorted. It may contain more or less irrelevant baggage. Nonetheless each witness is a witness for some reason. They have SOMEthing useful to contribute.
The one or two trick ponies lack proof of work and are noise obfuscating signal.
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I had this exact thought after listening to 562 of Once Bitten and is why I bought a Quran yesterday. Couldn't find a Talmud or that would've been in there too. Keep up the stellar perspective, fren.
Thank you for this feedback. I appreciate your choice to explore different traditions. There is comfort in knowing that there are fellow travelers on the road.🙏
Kabbalah Unveiled by Imre Vallyon is a good textbook. I don't agree with every single thing he says but it's really good.
I have a Talmud and a guide book for it but as far as traditions that are Jewish are concerned, Kabbalah and the Essenes have gotten 99.9% of my attention so far.
This will absolutely be on my list. I have to ask.. are some of the sick things citculating about the Talmud true? The things about goy 3 years or older and such?
I don't know. I haven't focused on it at all. Can't say I've cracked either book which is the case for a lot of the books I've collected. If we ever go back to no internet and no power though, I'm set on entertainment material for the rest of my life.
Prefacing again my ignorance on the Talmud, the little bit that I have picked up on the subject of the Talmud is that, to some degree, it contains an "us vs them" mentality which focuses on division, not unity.
That's one of the biggest reasons I like Imre's book. He does a good job of connecting the dots across various traditions. In my copy I have lots of pink highlights because pink is alliterative with perennialism so all perennialist links he makes, in my book, are highlighted pink. Any time he brings up Christianity, Sufi Islam, Hindu vocabulary, Buddhist vocabulary, etc. it got pink highlighter. My book has a solid amount of pink highlights in it.
I also haven't read the Talmud, but there are YouTube videos of people reading the pedophile part, so you could find that and then jump straight to the relevant part. I'd be interested in knowing if its really there, and if it still means that if included in its surrounding context.
Reminds me of meditation - Christians often say its opening up to Satan, and I'd like to respond, "how do you know?" They never try it.
I'm a green highlighter kinda guy, myself. Lol. And I get that, I'm constantly juggling whatever my modern read is, currently A People's History of The United States, and the new testament. The former has got me questioning the motives of the new world along with the latter realizing that Christ's job was a tedious one, and that he didn't come here to bring peace, as he plainly stated, Luke I believe making that case the clearest. That and how many times he called out the pharisees like in Matthew 23:2-12.
Acts 6 and 7 stand out, where Stephen quotes God in Act 7:40, saying the Israelites, Jews, manufactured their gods and their traditions, blatantly contradicting the first comandment.
It gives a clear indication that God did everything He could for the Jews and all of humanity, and so many, Jews included, refused to listen because of ego, hubris, whatever. It's largely why I began to read, to understand the nature of the fights and the corruption we see today.
I've always been curious of the other faiths, but the links you made across each path to divinity really drove me to begin my search in more than the one book. The rumors about the talmud did that too, along with finding out that Christ was also considered a profit in Islam. If that ends up being true, I'm going to have serious contention with the idea that Israel is "our greatest ally in the middle east". I already know that islamic extremism is retribution for American intervention, but I want to know for myself that Israel is actually leading that charge and driving the division we see today.
That and the search for turth does not end with a single book. I doubt God only sent his message through one man, tho I absolutely have a bias for Him.
Interesting note!
Some questions:
Practically speaking - how do you determine which of the huge number of rabbit holes to investigate?
If one has found conviction in a particular tradition - after a reasonable amount of research - is that person duty bound to continue to look elsewhere?
The Moloch verse I referenced makes me think that isn't actually about supremacy as much as a much darker incentive. Listen to William Schnoebelen too, who speaks about a masonic ritual involving taking the innocence of children to sustain eternal life. Where those two paths cross, I'm not sure. But both seem to provide incentives for the trafficking we see today, and a huge part of the open border issue with the Biden administration.
And deep prayer is a form of meditation.
Yeah it certainly can be. Sometimes I alternate prayer and meditation and I feel like it has a different effect
IMO only duty bound if they're trashing it. Nothing wrong with having conviction in your beliefs, just don't choose willful ignorance of other things.
Tbh I doubt the masonic stuff. I'm not a mason, so idk, but they seem like very reasonable people. They have YouTube channels and you can just pop in there and ask them stuff.
That Moloch verse sounds very interesting. Is it the same as the pedophile verse? There's a gnostic theory that the Old Testament God is actually Satan - I'm not saying he is, and I kinda recoil at the accusation, but if it can be supported by something in the Talmud, I think that's worth knowing.
Acts 6 and 7. God himself is quoted mentioning Moloch. I haven't read it yet so I have my doubts and I'm sure there's substantiation too. I would think some is, some isn't. Sean Ryan has had a few guys on of different persuasions, past life researcher, exprcist, etc. one of them mentioned how "the voice of God" could sound like many things. It's coming from the same realm, I presume, that demons are in. So to think the story of Isaac for instance might have been something evil does not seem farfatched to me at all.
Also, I'll point out that the WEF will tell you things too. Doesn't make them less malicious.
True, gotta live by 'don't trust ; verify'
