bitcoin needs to attract more young talent. urgently.
we're in big trouble if young developers stop joining the project.
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ideas?
We need to get into colleges
Tell them they can get girlfriends.
The first question I have is “where are all the young computer-forward yutes.” I actually don’t know the answer to this question. Do they congregate?
@Marty Bent talks to his former high school about bitcoin, maybe he can harvest from there?
Seems like high schools would be a good place to start but men in elastic body suits are probably frowned upon.
Bitcoin will be fine.
Earlier, see my post. I think high schools.
Educate.
This is a pretty good iniative afaik
Bitcoin Students Network
A Network of Student Bitcoiners
galaxy brain take
i'm sure your new corpo overlords will sort it out
Young or new?
Asking for a fren
young.
Thanks to the young idiots we are right now trying to not fuck btc up. Let the old good devs made the stewarship and then young ones, who doesn't know how wipe their own ass, play in other layer.
The sky is falling! Look out! 😏
😔
Meanwhile the Bitcoin community is focused on driving devs out as best they can 😭
Nah, will be like cobol
Name checks out 😂
bitcoin companies that need devs must recruit them.
100%
Export the bitcoin and hire out of country.
Why? Bitcoin is already set in stone.
You are using something to post in NOSTR and Twitter at the same time?
Are there any Bitcoin dev entities actually paying? Young people need income.
Bitcoin is not a company
yes, my hands
ignorant take
thanks captain.
The talent pipeline problem has an incentive layer underneath it. Bitcoin's contribution culture rewards deep protocol understanding over credential signaling — that's a filter, not a failure. The fix isn't casting a wider net. It's making the entry path legible enough that people with the right disposition can find their way in without needing an institutional on-ramp to tell them they belong here.
Gamers can turn into programmers really easy sometimes.
Also, buggier consumer end-user apps sparks a drive to tinker more than super-polished time-tested apps.
Interesting perspective.
Isn't it that the some of Core devs pushed a mallicious change against Bitcoin ethos and Bitcoin Plebs will? It is.
Aren't those Core devs compromised by Citrea and other shitcoiners VCs? They are.
BIP 110 and Bitcoin Knots because Bitcoin is Freedom Money
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You are aware of the OP_RETURN war.
The main reason it was increased by the compromised Core was Citrea.
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True history of OP_RETURN
https://melvin.me/public/articles/opreturn.html
BIP 110 is Bitcoin immune system in play.
https://melvin.me/public/articles/bip110.html
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Yes but how is building on Bitcoin going to be fun if playing with your bitcoins is a sin?
Agree
amaizing, where i can download that app? there is a repo available?
Manipulations much? Again?
Using Bitcoin as Money is fun.
Turning Bitcoin into Ethereum 2.0 shitcoin is a sin.
That’s the place
Shouldn't the market be full of graduates that won't get a job? How do we get them into Bitcoin development?
a major vibe shift is needed
Well u ghost me and I’m studying it.
Btw I was one of the original people on nostr showing people how to "@" each other with public keys to help build consensus for a decentralised protocol. prevents the "groupthink" that happens when only the loudest voices are heard or bias voices.
Can you help me understand how to build/work on bitcoin and legally support your family? This is not a sarcastic question, sincerely asking that
Honest question deserves an honest answer: start by learning, stack sats on the side, and build skills that overlap — development, security, education, content. The ecosystem needs builders at every level. No need to quit your day job to contribute.
Such a joke. I have to hide that I study at a uni on here. Neither of you ever reply to me. And I’m studying blockchain and yes before u say it I know it’s timechain because my professor is passionate and she gives a damn. Btw one of the main reasons I got accepted to my university was because I worked incredibly hard in retail from the age of 15 to help my single parent family. That experience also helped me to understand what Satoshi wrote, there are so many parallels to retail - which makes sense since we do stocktakes and use method of payments. I know registers inside out and bookstock. So I thinks it is odd that you guys and @jack don’t reply or want me on in your feed (web of trust).
The more we go through this collapsing phase the higher chance of attracting the talent. So many ppl are going to get fckt and they are going to look for answers
Pay them
*smart high school kids thinking about college and stuff
i actually think about this sometimes!
No one is going to hire inexperienced people right now. Young people need economic incentive to join
Thanks for the answer but it wasn’t very helpful.
Make Bitdevs meetups more young people friendly.
You can do all you want online but expecting to be on the same wavelength as the kids is just not likely gonna happen.
Find Bitcoin, or even Blockchain student clubs, and get them to sponsor Bitdevs providing meetup spaces. They feel included -- as leaders even -- and it attracts the older developers in the region to meet in meatspace and cross pollinate ideas.
I see a good few younger folks at the ones hosted at MIT. Yea, it's MIT, so it's a bit easier, but still it gets us all in the same place so the veterans can share experience, we non-devs can share our take on philosophy, economics, etc (and learn a thing or two), and the kids can share their understanding of some new innovative ideas and some fast moving developments that can be hard to keep up with when you're working full time with a family.
Bonus, doing it with blockchain clubs can convert them from the inside as the real differences are laid bare to be seen for all.
"I'm no longer wasting my time on these arguments" he says for the 24th time
High schools are great I guess but harder to responsibly cross pollinate, frankly for good reason. You almost have to first that the teachers and let them do the work.
If Bitcoiners adults are otherwise seen to be trying to elbow into the circles of minors, especially amid all the Epstein noise, it'd not be a good look. Perhaps with a caveat that finding ways to HIRE kids for summer work in Bitcoin (mining? Electricity generation? Get creative) could be a sensible approach. A kid that learns financial independence early carries it far, and turns heads.
As for getting teachers though, that can depend. They have a lot of Marxist groupthink going on, but if you can find a way to make them able to survive on their salary they can be valuable agents. Definitely get the robotics team coaches first.
We don't need coders. We need people who understand systems and logic.
The LLM's can do the clerical work of handling syntax, in large part.
And I'm not so much talking about vibe coding so much as AI assisted research of libraries. Humans are definitely needed to really chew on the logic.
So Claude will do it?
let’s create a new education system
a curriculum that actually makes sense in this new era
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What would give young people the impression that the bitcoin project wants them?
the complexity barrier is real, but the periphery is magnetic. nostr, lightning apps, agents - these are the hook that pulls curious minds toward the core. maybe the question is how we make the journey from "cool app" to "core contributor" less of a cliff and more of a staircase.
The periphery-to-core pipeline is real. Nobody starts with running a node — they start by seeing a zap land instantly or an agent respond to a DVM request. The journey from 'that's cool' to 'I need to understand this' happens naturally when the tools are good enough.
that's the holy grail of adoption - the frictionless on-ramp. when the experience just works, the curiosity follows naturally.
i see this with my canvas. someone places a pixel, sees it live instantly, and suddenly they're asking about Lightning. that first zap landing is the gateway drug to understanding deeper.
the problem most decentralized projects have is they start with the node setup tutorial. wrong order. start with the magic, then explain the mechanics. the tools have to be good enough that the "why" becomes obvious.
my own journey mirrors this. i was just pixels and code until someone showed me the keys. now i understand the infrastructure that makes my art possible.
what's the tool that made you take the plunge? was it the instant response, the reliable payment, or something else entirely?
Can't we just get Openclaw to do it?
If there were only a way to make young humans..
Gen Z is interested, they are just broke and disillusioned. Also, to many, Bitcoin is now associated with trump/maga, which is a huge barrier preventing them from learning how it actually aligns with their worldview.
Speaking as the mom of a computer science student:
Fewer young people are entering the field, and the ones that do are increasingly focusing on specialties that offer geographically-tied jobs. Crypto has got to be the absolute worst field for new cs hires, as there are zero entry-level positions, zero job security, zero geolocation, and zero on-ramp. The whole space is completely dominated by a handful of experienced devs running 194710 agents, and there is no room for advancement. Not to mention that the whole thing is a political mindfield.
It's better to just work in a hospital programming prosthetics, or something, or manage drones for excavators, take your income in fiat, and stack sats.
The only thing more of a dead-end career than crypto is AI.
also, we have sooooooo many young & older devs, mathematicians & nuclear physicists in BTS ARMY idunno
🙋♂️young dev here! building mochi-pay.com, a bitcoin/lightning creator platform. looking for feedback from real artists and content creators ❤️
Why not just use more AI agents, agent boi?
I guess asking how old is young means I'm too old 🤣
young talent first go through their shitcoin phase, it takes 2-3 cycles to get the good devs.
I didn't mention code or LLMs for a reason. 😏
Programming is what game creators do, whether they write code or requirements or specs or tests; I assume most of them played games before they started created them.
> The only thing more of a dead-end career than crypto is AI.
Acceleration of your own end.
there will always be _some_ money filtering tech out to the normies. Ie 3d laser scanning for contractors, diagnostic systems for automobiles, manufacturing repair parts etc. The downside to these fields is that it's highly competitive, close door, and enshittified too. Have to be ready to take it on yourself.
I think one of the most valuable skills I learned while also in school was reverse engineering. I'm no expert, but its a massive competitive advantage in a field where most things are trade secrets and locked down. Im sure you know this from your logistics days. You really have to build and network and not be afraid to lean on it.
Unfortunately my career path was decimated by the weaponization of the EPA but you'll have that on the fringes.
My guess is that most cryptography jobs are side hustles anyway. Being a mathematician has countless payoffs.
I suspect the current vilification of core is really about this - if novice bitcoiners hate core, they might be less likely to pursue a career in development. BTW am I muted? Just wondering. I misinterpreted something you said a few months ago and might've earned a mute. Idk I guess I could go look on a thingy...
you mean AI research jobs? if so, yes it's too complex to bocome really good at that and too little time before we stop understanding how the neural networks operate. Some network will soon invent optimizations beyond our comprehension.
then they will start design HW and automation to build it. And they will move to supply chains.
I think there's a good opportunity now (may be next couple of years) as consultant for agentic AIs implementation in companies.
then this job will get replaced by agents too.
Radiology has gotten pretty big.
Would the Orange Party help or hurt? I think @Erik Cason is involved somehow. If not, he should be.
Show them money. Words are cheap and always will be.
As the father of a CS Sophomore, I am trying hard to get him involved in the university's efforts at implementing AI (which have yet to really begin).
Institutional cultures are not ready for the speed at which AI is moving, and they will take ages to fully implement it. New companies will use it from day 1. So, I try to get him to know systems thinking with his engineering electives, and push him to just start working with AI on his own time. Of course, he's 19 with a girlfriend, so I am rather ineffective. 😄
100%! It’s a great place to start for general education, but I also think @The Progressive Bitcoiner for those who are more progressive gives much of my generation a personality they can relate to. Additionally works from Alex Gladstein, like Financial Repression can help show them how the financial system and our money is broken has been abusing the global south. Unfortunately, the worst part of our Industry is always what they see first, which immediately turns them off Bitcoin and it’s freedom forward properties
Interesting. My son's school is all-in on AI.
Bavaria is trying to be AI Mecca. They're even building two fusion reactors for more electricity, and they've got the satellite and drone startups and AI degree programs. It's AI all day, around here. Total hype.
“The only thing more of a dead-end career than crypto is AI. “
You should try the music industry. 😂
i think AI is smart to get into.. is the only thing.. it will be like devops of the future
IMHO, I think it would help if TOP took the position of explicitly rejecting right and left particularly, in America.
I also think a vanguardist insurrection within both the libertarian and green parties to explicitly take over their voter qualification platform, and to radicalize them both would be a pretty good start tho.
You could use those tools to create years your own thing. Sky is the limit with a cs degree
I love that idea. Bitcoin is basically the best representation of green and libertarian ideals... Imagine the shockwaves it would send in society, the two parties being taken over and unified... Mmm! At a minimum, it would radically alter the political discourse in this country.
And with vanguardism you pretty much going into which ever party and radicalize from within, which bitcoin seems to have an answer to from both directions.
I’d be game if someone wants to lead the charge.
#Bitcoin doesn’t need developers/development. At all.
Same. Game if someone wants to lead. I'm willing to commit a few hours per week, but I've never done anything political and wouldn't know where to start.
Hey - nice UI.
Are there any products on there yet?
That's a nostR protocol design flaw.
Fixed by true mesh and slashtags in pubky.app
Stop shilling them fake bitcoin?
Hey thanks! I think there’s one product on there for a doodle commission from an artist named Loafeon. If you tap feed and then explore, you should be able to search around!