Orange Pill App founder doesnβt believe in #Nostr 
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Why not both?
I found a local meetup with OPA, so I'm grateful. It's like Bitcoin Tinder
Anyone who pays to register
App for number go up LARPs
Orange Pill all is just plain stupid.
Lol sounds like the ones saying "told you bitcoin is dead".
yikes good point
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Itβs a p2p flinstones vitamin exchange 
Well the truth is unless we KYC all accounts we will never know.
Itβs funny, when you built tools to protect against censorship, you also lose a single reference point. The network is no longer homogeneous or has a single truth.
Without getting into βwhat is an active userβ, because that has to be defined well first, and is different from current platforms who track reads/logins - what even is a user?
There are lots of bridge bots who rebroadcast content from other networks. They seem like users - but are they? Youβd think not, but they appear real in data (ignoring subtleties). Minds broadcasts from their network to Nostr.. itβs real users, just another access method - but users donβt necessarily post Nostr events directly.
You can measure derivatives, like relay active connections, unique posts a day, paid NIP-05, or paid relay users, ZAPs, etc.
Itβs late and I donβt claim these numbers are directly meaningful, however I have 17MM events, with very little spam. And I have 100,658 users with > 10 events and a name/display name set. 366,000 with > 1 event (and name/display name).
The Damus Nostr Account has 164,186 followers - and all new app users follow that account by default.
If we legit hit 700,000+ active users four days in a row, I have no idea how.
Lol you actually bought that domain for a redirect π
OPA is 100% signal... 
LN address should work now.
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I love meeting other bitcoiners IRL. Just not through a paywalled, closed-sourced, geolocating, centralized app. π€·ββοΈ
HOWS IT GOING ON TWITTER MR THREE-LIKES
oh you must be one of these Decentralized People π
Sure .. an app targeted at bitcoiners that requires you to share your location and requires an email address sounds like a great target
Would be nice to see same stats on orange pill app
Sponsors plebs in El Salvador where the app is completely free.
So Pablo, wen Nostr version of the OPA π
Well, more wholesome than I expected I suppose.
Just a curiosity..why you waste your time here ?!
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its a steady grind.
To drive nostriches to the app
Perfectly fine of course because Nostr doesnβt discriminate
Its so successful that after I downloaded it I never even registered π
It would be interesting to see if something like OPA is possible on nostr. Is anybody working on it?
Don't provoke #[7]β π
Thanks, we're biased of course but you can check our reviews here:
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We have so many domains you have no idea... π
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Be a lot cooler if there were more women in bitcoin...
Agreed. x1000.
I signed up for lifetime of Orange Pill App. 300k sats. Haven't had a single interaction yet.
Cc #[6]β plz provide meme
Heβs catching grief for charging for a service. You have to love the bitcoin culture, because they always start out not trusting. Then, they verify! I was skeptical about it also. Now that Iβm on it. I would not go back. Pure signal! Unless, of course, if I thought they were compromised. Working well right now. We shall see. Time will tell. Tik tok, next block!
So a paid clubhouse clone?
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What do you mean by that?
a funny fact that many lost their nsec private keys
Sorry to hear that Tigs. Feel free to reach out via DM here or on OPA if you want a refund.
You pay subscription and you can talk to Bitcoin influencers
When did #[6]β get a cameo on South Park?
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Goodness. No one thought this was a bad idea? π€¦ββοΈ
Since we donβt deliver pizza we use approximate geolocation which means you can be anywhere in a 10 miles radius.
Hereβs a thought experiment to understand how meaningless even precise geolocation would be: if I told you the exact distance between you and me, how would you find me?
I'm liking this conversation. Keep going! π€£
Canβt continue, sorry, our handlers have told us it should have stayed a secret. π€«
How to delete notes on nostr??
What is a high quality writing event?
But how does a user know exactly what data you collect?
i've never used it, what does it do?
We donβt do ads, why would we collect any data beyond the core features of the app which will only increase our costs?
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All sorted! Still a member :)
You rug pull strangers on Nostr for sats dude. Not much credence to your words.
links? sources? please?
Oh. Got ya!
Donβt waste your time on #nostr
Unless of course it leads to you discovering the #[3]β and paying for a membership.
Then you can proceed to waste your time there!
Conflicted much?
π€ thereβs lots of ways to monetize a user base beyond serving ads.
But that wasnβt the question.
He sure got y'all talking about it!!
my bad forgive me that i mean many persons dont realize nsec is more important than npub they just backup npub then swipe data
If youβre asking if OPA is open source, the answer is no.
If we were monetizing our users data we wouldnβt have a paywall; which greatly reduce the amount of data.
It sounds like a sales pitch.
Refunded? So itβs currently worth free?
Nostr is free to use, without permission anytime.
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It was a joke bro. π π€£ π u want your sats back?
Lol
You mean to say people actually paid for that? Smh
So a CIA, NSA or IRS agent can pretend to be a bitcoiner, buy a life time membership and spy on you and every bitcoiner out there? #NGMI π
No, we have a partnership with CIA, NSA and other foreign intel agencies, they donβt even have to pay to join.
Thought so π
please don't tell anybody π€«
Hey Jack, big fan of yours. 𧑠Have you tried OPA? Would love to know why you think is useless, our metrics and the feedback we get on a daily basis from our users indicate otherwise.
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My experience with @orangepillappβ has been nothing but positive. Weβve added people to meet ups that they didnβt know existed and added extra headcount to Bitcoin events that we have held. Very positive experience and like anything it is new and will only improve.
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Hi Jack, saying OPA an app that has brought bitcoiners together giving the global south direct audience - is useless? That hurts,
The twitter you built is more censored that a 100% government funded media. Now thatss useless.
Oh i forget, you scrapped out some billions.
Well Orange Pill App led to me going to my first meetup and starting a regular Ohio meetup that didnβt exist before so thatβs pretty cool
I have actually met a lot of people on orange pill app.
It is great for organizing meetups.
Its a social networking app, not a social media.
It is in no way a compeditor for nostr. Its actualy kind of works complimentary with it.
OPA taught me and networked me more in Bitcoin in one month, than I had previously had a year into the space, the snowball effect really did wonders, I met with #[6] learned about lightning and Breez more than I expected, now my family is opening a restaurant tomorrow and it will be the first one to accept BTC here or atleast one of the few, all thanks to OPA
It's early, yet, and some take issue with the paywall, but the net effect is a very dedicated group of Bitcoiners. I've met some great ones as a result of OPA, and we've invited even more to #[5] from the app.
Do I think OPA should be integrated with or even built on nostr? Absolutely, and I've been strongly encouraging in that direction.
thanks for sharing your experience π
thanks for sharing your experience π
thanks for sharing your experience π
thanks for sharing your experience Shawn π
Thanks for sharing your experience π
Useful for us no-names to find fellow psychopaths to conspire with.
No offence but this all stemmed from your founder publicly stating Nostr would fail and people shouldnβt bother waste their time on it
Matteo have been critical of nostr almost from the beginning, it would be great if somebody engaged with him on the merit of his arguments instead of attacking OPA.
Maybe he should join nostr?
That would be a start, yes.
Joke or not, this is why the nostr protocol works. NSA slips happen, and there are no take backs or do overs. π€£
Deal! Will you join OPA so that you can give us real feedback/criticism?
Lmao. OPA is just Facebook with a bitcoin hook. Do you know how many bitcoiners use Facebook? π
Are you on actually OPA? In what way are we Facebok x bitcoiners? we don't even have a feed...
Are you serious? You are actually worse than Facebook. You are charging bitcoiners sats while selling their location data and their likeness. π
We don't do ads, nor sell our users' data, which is why OPA is completely paywalled.
Sure you do. That is your whole business model. If you can somehow convince @Jack to join, all I have to do is pay 100k sats and I will know where he is when he is using the app. Do you think he wants to let some strangers know his location? And if he turns off location data at all times to protect privacy, then your app is just useless. Just be honest, βbitcoinersβ is the product and your business is selling them to some other supposed βbitcoinersβ
Since we don't deliver pizza, π we use approximate geolocation, which means you can be anywhere in a 10 miles radius. The distance we show you from another user is rounded up, randomized, and can be turned off by the user.
OPA was created to connect the plebs who have no IRL friends to talk about Bitcoin with, definitely not for people like @npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63mack.
However since we don't verify anything, he can get a membership in sats and create an anonymous account to try OPA and give us some feedback.
We just launched the events page which allows users to create and find bitcoin events nearby and by the end of the year, we will have a marketplace where merchants can connect with local plebs and accelerate hyperbitcoinization.
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Orange Pill App Is Accelerating Hyperbitcoinization In Real Life
Orange Pill App brings Bitcoiners together, demonstrates demand for adoption to local businesses and propels the bitcoin standard.
Dude you know nothing about the app. Its for meeting bitcoiners near you.
Quit with the baseless claims.
Your ignorance is showing.
#[8]
This is because of #[7]
I mean at least i can chat with bitcoiners on #[6] on my android phone and get push notifications.
I have not found a #nostr client thar can provide me with push norifications.
This makes holding a conversation with someone virtually impossible on android nostr clients.
Just saying. Why dont we quit with the demonising of both useful tools and colaborate with each of them.
I think its hillarious that you gripe about a paid service when #nostr has paid private relays. If you want to filter out spam you are forced to pay a subscription fee to these paid relays.
By putting up a paywall #[7] has filtered out virtually all spammers/scammers. I think they may have had 1 guy that kept trying to pay to scam and eventually gave up after being removed several times.
Can you verify all those people using the app is actual bitcoiners and not IRS agents pretending to be one? β¦ Dude π
Wtf is that even supposed to mean?
Bro how do i know you arent an IRS agent, whats your point?
You Use WoS. If you want to recover your funds im sure you have an email registered with them.
Is WoS a fed wallet?
You act like you cant make a fake email if you want to be paranoid about privacy.
I am not meeting WOS in a foreign country and tell him I have bitcoin. If you want to do that, go ahead. Have a ball π
nostr.band also doesn't say which relays it's reading from to gather stats.
You are such a dumb ass its unbelievable.
Who is meeting in foreign countries. I met with people in my area.
Hey Jack, nice to meet you π€
The app only uses approximate location (10 mile radius). It also only shows the approximate last location in which the appilication was open. If you are in costa rica and you open the app and close it, then fly to the USA and never open the app it will still say tou are in Costa Rica.
Also as previously stated you dont even have to show your location.
Like i said before you try and speak on stuff of which you know nothing about.
Your ineptitude is showing.
Because of @orangepillapp, a small group of us in a small northern Michigan city were able to find each other. We now have a #Bitcoin group that meets once a month. I donβt call that βuseless.β
we couldn't resist. www.itsauselessapp.com
Ahh ok! Gotcha :)
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