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Pavel Durov telegram post earlier today Full text 👇 ❤️ Thanks everyone for your support and love! Last month I got interviewed by police for 4 days after arriving in Paris. I was told I may be personally responsible for other people’s illegal use of Telegram, because the French authorities didn’t receive responses from Telegram. This was surprising for several reasons:  1. Telegram has an official representative in the EU that accepts and replies to EU requests. Its email address has been publicly available for anyone in the EU who googles “Telegram EU address for law enforcement”.  2. The French authorities had numerous ways to reach me to request assistance. As a French citizen, I was a frequent guest at the French consulate in Dubai. A while ago, when asked, I personally helped them establish a hotline with Telegram to deal with the threat of terrorism in France. 3. If a country is unhappy with an internet service, the established practice is to start a legal action against the service itself. Using laws from the pre-smartphone era to charge a CEO with crimes committed by third parties on the platform he manages is a misguided approach. Building technology is hard enough as it is. No innovator will ever build new tools if they know they can be personally held responsible for potential abuse of those tools.  Establishing the right balance between privacy and security is not easy. You have to reconcile privacy laws with law enforcement requirements, and local laws with EU laws. You have to take into account technological limitations. As a platform, you want your processes to be consistent globally, while also ensuring they are not abused in countries with weak rule of law. We’ve been committed to engaging with regulators to find the right balance. Yes, we stand by our principles: our experience is shaped by our mission to protect our users in authoritarian regimes. But we’ve always been open to dialogue. Sometimes we can’t agree with a country’s regulator on the right balance between privacy and security. In those cases, we are ready to leave that country. We've done it many times. When Russia demanded we hand over “encryption keys” to enable surveillance, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Russia. When Iran demanded we block channels of peaceful protesters, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Iran. We are prepared to leave markets that aren’t compatible with our principles, because we are not doing this for money. We are driven by the intention to bring good and defend the basic rights of people, particularly in places where these rights are violated. All of that does not mean Telegram is perfect. Even the fact that authorities could be confused by where to send requests is something that we should improve. But the claims in some media that Telegram is some sort of anarchic paradise are absolutely untrue. We take down millions of harmful posts and channels every day. We publish daily transparency reports (like this or this ). We have direct hotlines with NGOs to process urgent moderation requests faster. However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon.  I hope that the events of August will result in making Telegram — and the social networking industry as a whole — safer and stronger. Thanks again for your love and memes 🙏

Telegram is bad for you

That was always a bullshit claim, no? Since group chats were never claimed to be e2ee.

Why do they have to remove it? Why not simply lie about it?

remnants of decency?

#telegram #nost #plebchain

You should get anyone you know to get a npub. It's getting more and more obvious by the day! #grownostr

Nostr now 👏👏👏

What if the whole “intent” behind this whole thing is to drive people away from using telegram, and trusting it as a platform? Undermine public trust… What if they can’t read messages on there. So they undermine people trust in it, driving them towards platforms they can monitor… That’s just a conspiracy theory tho… however if you think about it, doesn’t it make sense?

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Some other social network that shall be nameless (let’s call it network x) is reporting this sentence has simply moved to a more relevant place.

Telegram

Telegram FAQ

This FAQ provides answers to basic questions about Telegram. Check out our Advanced FAQ for more technical information.…

Telegram was never private.

Simplex is the only private chat, all others are fake.

Surprise! #Durov does not want to go to jail.

Surprise! Telegram was never private. View quoted note →

I have a growing list of concerns with Telegram, but let's strive to be fair & balanced in our reporting. In the main, this change looks to be part of a broader reorganization of the FAQ to incorporate more EU-specific citations. As others have pointed out, the phrase in question is still present; it's just been moved to a different heading.

Telegram

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Yea but they often declined government requests. Seems like now they will bend over backwards for them.

Having a known CEO is an easy point of failure. No one wants to go to jail. Satoshi did it the right way 🙏

GM, from wss://relay.primal.net

Good pickup did not see that thanks

Good pickup. I did not see that, thanks

Sure, he bought himself his freedom again. It will probably go away quietly now.

Good time to push full decentralized solution with protected people ids ?

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Exactly.

That's messed up. But its not like I ever trusted telegram anyway

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It is a system of consent. People have to hand it over.

Sempre avisei que Telegrama é SCAM. Não entendo tanta gente naquela porcaria.

Its almost if "Trusted Third Parties are Security Holes"

Trusted Third Parties are Security Holes | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute

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Got to love companies that create a monopoly for their service and then update their terms of service that would keep most of their users away from their product. How is this legal or moral?

Censorship resistance is hard View quoted note →

They've banned themselves from half the planet. At this point I'm sure they do care a bit about being banned.

kinda ironic basically just conceding that they don't make any effort to protect the privacy of group chats tho, it's gonna impact their userbase... probably more people leave without that guarantee, i'm sure maybe 5-10% of telegram users care about this... one of my friends already moved to Session a few months back because the red flags were piling up on telegram

Concerning, But I never used it anyway

Pavel has bended the knee.

Pavel has bended the knee. View quoted note →

Trusting Telegram is like trusting a cop.

This was clearly a blackmail scheme, and a ritual on Durov's part.

signal is the best everyday simple messaging app. View quoted note →

yep true

For the FBI/MI5/CIA agents monitoring this telegram channel, i declare that i have no idea how i got here. Probably through forced invite. I do not condone with or encourage of any illegal activities carried out within this channel. Illegal activities are frowned upon and are not endorsed by anyone in this channel.

Coincidência? Acho que não....

What a joke

Meant to attach this. View quoted note →

Ya estoy en @0xchat y me parece genial

Acredito que o Telegram esteja com os dias contados para os brasileiros que buscam privacidade. A gente está assistindo a ofensiva dos estados contra a privacidade dos seus respectivos cidadãos. Brasil não vai ser uma exceção. View quoted note →